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You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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ONE OF THE BEST FRONT GRILLS . . . EVER!!!!! by tagman
Jan 16, 2006 (9:40 pm)
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Reading the Lexus synopsis was fine, but you should also check out the history of Mercedes Benz sometime. I'll save you the "copy/paste" and won't place it here.
 
On a side note, there is one little slice of Mercedes Benz that is an ICON for all time. It was (and still is, although "modernized"):
one of the most famous and fabulous FRONT GRILLS OF ALL TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: 1990 LS400 [ljflx] by oac
Jan 16, 2006 (10:45 pm)
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Replying to: ljflx (Jan 16, 2006 9:04 pm)

I couldn't write the synopsis any better. Great job, Len... and thanks for helping out.
 
Well, Designman, between the timeline capsule and the synopsis from Len, you get the picture... The rest of the research is up to you, if indeed you'd like to know more
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The big Japanese Toyota V-12 by scott1256
Jan 17, 2006 (4:56 am)
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sedan is the Century, not the Crown: sorry about that.
 
The Century with options can top the $100,000 mark in Japan. It has a vvti 48 valve V-12 and very formal body style. See the picture and specs at thus link.
 
http://www.cars-directory.net/specs/toyota/century/2001_5/5837/
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Re: The big Japanese Toyota V-12 [scott1256] by designman
Jan 17, 2006 (5:30 am)
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Replying to: scott1256 (Jan 17, 2006 4:56 am)

Thank you Oac and Ljflx for that response. Ljflx, I am guessing that your mention of Lexus info in business books and college text books alludes to them as a business model.
 
On another note, I really like the styling of the Toyota Century and lament the fact that no company is choosing to pursue and preserve that classic look. It’s all about trying to create the future these days and the only thing they wind up with is ephemeral fashion, most of which fails miserably. What a shame. I welcome the manifest destiny of technology but we cannot throw Shakespeare, Rembrandt and Beethoven into the trash. Impossible, they are immortal. Likewise, I would like to see certain distinct elements of classic styling preserved. It would seem this should fall into the hands of HELMs first, but it isn’t happening. You have no idea how disappointed I am in the styling of most cars today.
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Re: Classic designs [designman] by scott1256
Jan 17, 2006 (5:58 am)
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Replying to: designman (Jan 17, 2006 5:30 am)

I agree with you. A car blending current technology with classic styling would find a market niche in the USA.
 
If Lincoln offered a modern version of their 1961-67 Continental (including the 4-door convertible) their showrooms would be busy!
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Re: The big Japanese Toyota V-12 [designman] by lexusguy
Jan 17, 2006 (6:54 am)
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Replying to: designman (Jan 17, 2006 5:30 am)

What I'd like to see, is Jag do a modern version of the XK150. It is in my opinion, the best looking Jag of all time, and one of the best looking cars ever made.
 
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Re: The big Japanese Toyota V-12 [lexusguy] by designman
Jan 17, 2006 (6:58 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 17, 2006 6:54 am)

Agree. So cool. I had one of those in my Aurora slot car set circa 1960.
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Talk about profit: over $18,000 per car! by scott1256
Jan 17, 2006 (8:30 am)
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Will Porsche keep these margins once the Panamera sedan becomes part of the line?
 
From article in Forbes about German manufacturers: worth a read.
  
http://www.forbes.com/columnists/2006/01/13/volkswagen-bmw-germany_cz_jf_05germa- - - ny40_0117flint.html
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Re: really [syswei] by michael_mattox
Jan 17, 2006 (10:37 am)
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Replying to: syswei (Jan 16, 2006 1:16 pm)

It would seem to me that the most rational way to look at these sales numbers given this the the Luxury Marque thread is the S vrs 700 series vrs LS...compairing total sales in North America(since that is where most of us live.)
 
Anyone have those Numbers? U.S. only or N. America
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Re: Talk about profit: over $18,000 per car! [scott1256] by tagman
Jan 17, 2006 (10:43 am)
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Replying to: scott1256 (Jan 17, 2006 8:30 am)

Great article! Really points to many of the great strengths, convictions and attitudes (borderline arrogance) of the German manufacturers. The die-hard Lexus fans should read it, especially where it acknowledges Toyota's attempts at building a BMW for years. Thanks again.
 
TagMan

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