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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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enthusiasts by syswei
Jan 16, 2006 (5:18 pm)
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When I first started seeing people on these boards refering to "enthusiasts" I wasn't that clear on what was meant and so started to think about what it MIGHT mean. I thought it MIGHT mean someone that cared about the car itself, with an emphasis on performance aspects. I thought it might mean, in other words, "THE CAR", and NOT the badge it wore or the history of the company that made it or anything unrelated to performance, and, perhaps, styling and the overall ownership experience. Isn't it the car, and what it can do for you now, that matters?
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Re: No Attack Or Insult! [hpowders] by lexusguy
Jan 16, 2006 (5:19 pm)
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Isnt the answer pretty obvious? A large part of owning a Lexus isnt the car, its the ownership "experience". Lexus dealerships are seperate from Toyota dealerships. They are (comparatively) very low volume, and very personal. Toyota dealerships are zoos. Who wants to spend $50 or 60K in that kind of envinronment?
 
Dont you think if all of Toyota's products were sold at the same place, the people buying Camrys or Highlanders would be very upset at the level of service people buying "Toyota LS430s" were getting that they themselves were not? Do you really think a Toyota dealership is going to come to your house to pick up a Corolla for service?
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Lexus in Japan by docnukem
Jan 16, 2006 (5:27 pm)
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Part of the reason Toyota didn't start with Lexus (as separate from Toyota) in Japan was pressure from the Toyota dealers there. It was in one of the links posted earlier in the day. If I find it, I'll repost it.
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Re: No Attack Or Insult! [lexusguy] by hpowders
Jan 16, 2006 (5:28 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 16, 2006 5:19 pm)

Well there is no doubt that Lexus tries very hard to provide one of the top upscale dealership experiences in the USA.
The second salesman I dealt with last summer who actually got the vehicle right and let me drive the car I asked to drive, the GS430, was the best salesman I ever had the pleasure to meet.
Compared to him, the BMW people I have encountered have a long way to go.
He had encyclopedic knowledge of the car but was totally relaxed with no sales pressure.
I was so impressed, I sent him a referral and he closed a deal on the GS430 with that person, even though I didn't.
When the new LS 460 comes out, I will be calling him for a test drive, that's for sure.
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Re: Lexus in Japan [docnukem] by hpowders
Jan 16, 2006 (5:29 pm)
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Replying to: docnukem (Jan 16, 2006 5:27 pm)

Thank you. I find the sociology of marketing a fascinating topic.
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Re: No Attack Or Insult! [hpowders] by syswei
Jan 16, 2006 (5:33 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Jan 16, 2006 5:28 pm)

Well, since the GS wasn't sporty enough for you, you are going to shock us all if you someday buy an LS.

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