High End Luxury Cars

24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#13058 of 24700 Predictions by pat HOST Jan 12, 2006 (5:06 pm)
While not exactly the same different gear that merc1 proposed, you might be interested in 2006 Predictions: The Lunch We All Wish We Had an Invite To. What do you think?
#13059 of 24700 2006 Maybach 57 S by pat HOST Jan 12, 2006 (5:13 pm)
You also may be interested in this article: First Drive: 2006 Maybach 57 S. Just thought I'd mention this as well since I'm here.
#13060 of 24700 Re: That Is Why [rayng] by hpowders Jan 12, 2006 (5:34 pm)
Replying to: rayng (Jan 12, 2006 4:47 pm) You know, I kind of think your clients wouldn't object if you transported them in a BMW 760Li. I and many, many others feel comparable BMW models are at least the equal in prestige as Mercedes. Call it what you will: "soul" or an undefinable metaphysical something else. All I know is BMW has it. Lexus doesn't. I suppose you can prove your rather omniscient statement: "Cars have no soul. People do." Replies to this message: rayng (Jan 12, 2006 5:51 pm) hpowders (Jan 12, 2006 6:48 pm) brightness04 (Jan 12, 2006 9:11 pm) blckislandguy (Jan 12, 2006 7:01 pm) dewey (Jan 12, 2006 7:44 pm) and 2 more... brightness04 (Jan 12, 2006 9:24 pm) and 2 more...
#13061 of 24700 Re: That Is Why [oac] by hpowders Jan 12, 2006 (5:40 pm)
Replying to: oac (Jan 12, 2006 5:05 pm) BMW banished Bangle? I thought BMW promoted him indicating he will be with the company for a very long time.
#13063 of 24700 Re: That Is Why [hpowders] by rayng Jan 12, 2006 (5:51 pm)
Replying to: hpowders (Jan 12, 2006 5:34 pm) Most clients notice what I don't drive more than what I drive. One day, I pulled up in my wife's Honda and they wondered if my car was in the shop. It was. Whereas my younger clients (30-40s) think bimmers are as good if not better than Mercs, most of my clients who are baby boomers do note a difference. As superficial and image conscious as we are(n't), many of the people I work for do notice. As to what BMW has and Lexus does not, I think it's a matter of preference. My dad's ES330 is smooth quiet and refined. The 745 is fun, fast, comfortable, and also refined. I do enjoy driving down my parking garage during the weekends. But other than that, I don't get to drive the car as aggressively as I like. Ultimately, the difference between Lexus, BMW, and Mercs is a matter of preference. BTW, I can't "prove" the supernatural. Can you prove BMW has a "soul"? Replies to this message: hpowders (Jan 12, 2006 6:48 pm) brightness04 (Jan 12, 2006 9:11 pm) blckislandguy (Jan 12, 2006 7:01 pm) dewey (Jan 12, 2006 7:44 pm) tagman (Jan 12, 2006 7:46 pm) and 1 more... brightness04 (Jan 12, 2006 9:24 pm) tagman (Jan 12, 2006 10:00 pm) and 1 more...
#13064 of 24700 Re: Copying, Gimmicks etc.... [merc1] by brightness04 Jan 12, 2006 (6:32 pm)
Replying to: merc1 (Jan 11, 2006 10:16 pm) So we agree that the original LS400 was much rounder than S class of that time. The original LS400 still looks like a today's car, whether you consider that Lexus or Toyota look is quite besides the point . . . the point being that the original LS400 was at the very forefront of the bigggest style transformation that has taken place since 1989: cars becoming like melted soap shaped At the same time we both agree that the S class in 1989 looked like cars from an entirely different era, with the boxy styles of the 80's. How in the world could Lexus be accused of copying a car that looked entirely different? The common luxury car themes, such as slab side, broad shoulder and high belt time dates back to 1906 Rolls, regardles you know it or not. Why not 1886? Because cars were toys for the rich back then, and the concept of luxury cars did not exist, regardless how "really silly" you think it is. The Mack Truck illustration is called Analogy. Please read analogies carefully and understand the ramifications and what is being analogized before tossing around words like "ridiculous." Calling someone's post "ridiculous" is not exactly a rebuttal. Replies to this message: pat (Jan 12, 2006 6:40 pm) merc1 (Jan 13, 2006 2:03 am)
#13065 of 24700 Re: Copying, Gimmicks etc.... [brightness04] by pat HOST Jan 12, 2006 (6:40 pm)
Replying to: brightness04 (Jan 12, 2006 6:32 pm) And if it is not a rebuttal as you say, you don't need to respond defensively, yes? To all, let's tone down the personal issues that are going on here. They are not doing anything whatsoever to contribute to an educating and stimulating discussion, so let's just leave them by the side of the, um, road. Okay?? Thanks.
#13066 of 24700 Re: That Is Why [rayng] by hpowders Jan 12, 2006 (6:48 pm)
Replying to: rayng (Jan 12, 2006 5:51 pm) Sure. Everyone who drives a BMW knows what I am talking about. Call it soul or an indefinable something. But BMW's got it. Some people can see Tinkerbell. Some can't. What can I say? Replies to this message: brightness04 (Jan 12, 2006 9:11 pm)