High End Luxury Cars

24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#13048 of 24700 Re: Which cars have Voice Command? [syswei] by tagman Jan 12, 2006 (3:32 pm)
Replying to: syswei (Jan 12, 2006 3:20 pm) What is very cool to me is that Voice Command is here NOW, and will just keep getting better. Replies to this message: rayng (Jan 12, 2006 3:34 pm) tagman (Jan 12, 2006 4:05 pm)
#13049 of 24700 Re: Sooner Or Later [bdr127] by rayng Jan 12, 2006 (3:32 pm)
Replying to: bdr127 (Jan 12, 2006 3:11 pm) I have an '02, and was thinking of getting the 750--especially with the toned down Bangle butt. However, I'm intrigued by the new 'LS and am looking at an '06 S500. My wife thinks I should buy a minivan and use the left over $ for a '70 chevelle. Replies to this message: bdr127 (Jan 12, 2006 4:11 pm)
#13050 of 24700 Re: Which cars have Voice Command? [tagman] by rayng Jan 12, 2006 (3:34 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Jan 12, 2006 3:32 pm) Which systems have you used? And for the group, which have been pretty easy to learn and reliable to use? Is the voice command mainly a navigation feature? I understand that the RL and new GSs have voice command but I don't know if they are really all that useful. Replies to this message: tagman (Jan 12, 2006 4:05 pm)
#13051 of 24700 Re: Which cars have Voice Command? [rayng] by tagman Jan 12, 2006 (4:05 pm)
Replying to: rayng (Jan 12, 2006 3:34 pm) You should go and test the voice command systems themselves, along with the test drive. Depending upon the vehicle, voice command can control the entire audio system, climate control, tell you what time it is, assist with almost any navigation command, and place your phone calls for you, just by telling it what you want. Since they are NOT all identical, the only way for you to know which ones YOU like would be for you to try them out. They are an important integral part of many new vehicles, and, therefore, should be part of the "test drive". I am a firm believer in voice command, as I have previously posted, and I think it will only improve over time.
#13052 of 24700 Re: Sooner Or Later [rayng] by bdr127 Jan 12, 2006 (4:11 pm)
Replying to: rayng (Jan 12, 2006 3:32 pm) I have an '02, and was thinking of getting the 750 Yeah, I agree the 2002 iDrive was horrendous.... The current version is pretty good.
#13053 of 24700 A8L by aabbcc112233 Jan 12, 2006 (4:34 pm)
Avoid the Idrive and go with the MMI in the A8L its more intuitive. Plus, the closest A8 you'll see is 100 miles away. Also, the A8L isnt ugly Replies to this message: rayng (Jan 12, 2006 4:56 pm)
#13054 of 24700 Re: That Is Why [hpowders] by rayng Jan 12, 2006 (4:47 pm)
Replying to: hpowders (Jan 12, 2006 10:14 am) Bangle has too much blame and credit for his designs. BMW should be applauded for their great sense of proportions and presence, as epitomized by the handsome and toned down 7 series. Ultimately, style does have its limits especially when a $100k car is stuck in traffic as all the others. Cars have no "soul." People do. The hyperbole lavished upon any vehicle is part marketing, part tradition, part experience, and at the end of the day purely up to the driver. BMWs are fun to drive, but so is a Porsche, Vette, Mini, Cobra, etc... What's pertinent to this group is how much sportiness can be dialed into a luxury sedan. I want a car that can be comfortable for clients. The Lexus certainly fits that bill. And though the LS does not have the presence and prestige of Mercedes, BMW falls a bit short in the prestige category as well. Almost all of the cars we discuss here are fine automobiles and we're all lucky to afford to drive them. Replies to this message: hpowders (Jan 12, 2006 5:34 pm) rayng (Jan 12, 2006 5:51 pm) hpowders (Jan 12, 2006 6:48 pm) and 1 more... blckislandguy (Jan 12, 2006 7:01 pm) and 6 more...
#13055 of 24700 Re: A8L [aabbcc112233] by rayng Jan 12, 2006 (4:56 pm)
Replying to: aabbcc112233 (Jan 12, 2006 4:34 pm) After seeing the A8L and the S8 at the L.A. auto show, I can certainly say that these cars are not ugly. They are gorgeous. If you guys haven't seen the '06 A8, check out the cars stance while parked. The sales guy claims that the air suspension lowers the car when parked giving it a nice crouched, slammed look. Would anyone in this group wait for the v10 this fall? I wonder how it compares to the v10 on the M5. I think the e55 still has the bragging rights for now--especially with the huge torque advantage. The replacement engine will have less torque but more hp to accomodate the new 7 speed transmission. I'll be sorry to see it go. And for the existing Audi owners, how's your dealer experience? Reliability issues?
#13056 of 24700 by lexusi Jan 12, 2006 (4:58 pm)
Read this: What's Edmunds' Take? And there's a hybrid LS still to come. The Germans had better prepare themselves. — Erin Riches Source, www.edmunds.com
#13057 of 24700 Re: That Is Why [hpowders] by oac Jan 12, 2006 (5:05 pm)
Replying to: hpowders (Jan 12, 2006 10:14 am) Instead of bragging that its interiors are made of wood from the same tree, give me a vehicle that will steer with road feel and whose steering wheel is not made out of slippery wood. Give me a car that will corner without body lean instead of like a big, bloated barge. Give me a Bangle BMW 7 series! Howard: Your needs and desire in a car are NOT necessarily those of the majority. You hardly even notice the interior content of your car... LOL.... Need I remind you that BMW is NOT the benchmark in the HELM space. Far from it. In fact, BMW's only claim to fame is its driving dynamics. That's it. Oh, lets add the 4/50K free maintainance service.... The Bangle design remains as polarizing today as it was 3 yrs ago when the new 7-series came out. I certainly do NOT like it any longer. Even the new e90 is a poke in the eye of Bangle. If Bangle is such a styling genius that everyone is copying, how is it BMW banished him, and ensured their new e90 will NOT be Bangled ? The LS460 and the S550 will set the benchmark in this class starting in 2006. BMW would scramble to save 7-series sales. A re-do for the 7 won't be out of order, and soon too. Replies to this message: hpowders (Jan 12, 2006 5:40 pm)