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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Re: Autoextremist loves the new LS [ljflx] by dewey
Jan 11, 2006 (6:28 pm)
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Replying to: ljflx (Jan 11, 2006 6:26 pm)

So it has to drive someone out of business to be better. Wow.
 
Yes competition is alive and well even in the luxury markets.
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Re: More on Lexus Intelligent Park Assist system [syswei] by hpowders
Jan 11, 2006 (6:34 pm)
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Replying to: syswei (Jan 11, 2006 3:14 pm)

No, unfortunately. Of those who made the pilgrimage, and BMW fanatics are urged to go to Munich once in their lifetime; from what I recall, quite a few of those pseudo-enthusiasts ordered their cars completely loaded.
I'm shocked that the mother-factory would actually allow this.
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Credit goes where credit is due by tagman
Jan 11, 2006 (6:56 pm)
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Mercedes is not being driven out of business for goodness sakes and neither is BMW. Lexus is good, but NO one should expect the ENTIRE Luxury market to consist of only Lexus's. That's ridiculous. Heck, if I were to waste a bunch more money than I already do, I'd have a couple of Mercedes, BMW's, Jag's and MAYBE even a Lexus in the garage. Why? Because each has it's own unique credentials.
 
For example, will a Lexus outperform a BMW on a tight twisty country road? NO, IT WILL NOT! Will it give a sumptuous ride without many visits to the shop? Yes.
 
Lexus is better at some things and BMW is better at some things, Mercedes is better at some things, etc., etc.
 
I try to respect you Lexus guys for having certain feathers in your caps, but do not try to steal away the ones that rightly belong to the other marques. Credit where credit is due.
 
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Re: More on Lexus Intelligent Park Assist system [hpowders] by dewey
Jan 11, 2006 (7:44 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Jan 11, 2006 6:26 pm)

It builds character (if one doesn't die from dehydration first).
 
I guess this is why all serious performance cars should have cup holders. It's good to have character and be alive at the same time.
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Re: Credit goes where credit is due [tagman] by ljflx
Jan 11, 2006 (7:56 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 11, 2006 6:56 pm)

Tagman - it wasn't us who suggested that. It was Dewey who said MB and BMW would be in Jaguars shape if Lexus was really good. Thus the comment back was that the need to drive someone out of business to prove yourself is a ridiculous position to take. Seems like something got lost in translation.
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Catching some ZZZZZZ's in the back of the LS460L by tagman
Jan 11, 2006 (8:04 pm)
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Hey, ljflx . . .I've been thinking about trying out one of those TemperPedic beds, y'know with the memory foam and all that, but now that I've seen the back seat of the LS460L with that LazyBoy recliner with the built-in massager, maybe I'd actually get better ZZZZZZZ's in the back of the Lexus. Gosh, I knew that car might be good for something!
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Re: More on Lexus Intelligent Park Assist system [dewey] by hpowders
Jan 11, 2006 (8:09 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 11, 2006 7:44 pm)

Isn't it funny how BMW can design such sophisticated vehicles, yet the ergonomics of a simple cup-holder still eludes them?
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Re: More on Lexus Intelligent Park Assist system [hpowders] by tagman
Jan 11, 2006 (8:17 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Jan 11, 2006 8:09 pm)

I agree. see post 12982
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Re: Credit goes where credit is due [ljflx] by dewey
Jan 11, 2006 (8:31 pm)
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Replying to: ljflx (Jan 11, 2006 7:56 pm)

It was Dewey who said MB and BMW would be in Jaguars shape if Lexus was really good.
 
Is that what I said? I dont think so?
 
Found in translation
Your view was that the Lexus LS is not only cheaper but equal or better than German offerings.
 
My view was that if a cheaper Lexus LS was really better than German offerings then the Germans would have serious problems like Jaguar.
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Re: Catching some ZZZZZZ's in the back of the LS460L [tagman] by oac
Jan 11, 2006 (8:50 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 11, 2006 8:04 pm)

Tagman:
 
".... get better ZZZZZZZ's in the back..." ... "LazyBoy recliner" ... "TemperPedic beds".... Were these same reclining feature not on an MB Maybach 57 or 62 ? But the LS460L can provide this for a whole lot less $$$, than a Maybach. I'd hope the S550 can try to match the LS460L in this area...
 
Maybe I am missing something cos I forgot what all the noise is about ? What exactly is the point you German car fans are making about the new LS460 ? I have lost touch with what the beef about this car is ??? Why not just promote the heck out of the Bimmer 745/750 and S500/550 ? There is no need to bash Lexus to make anyone feel good...

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