High End Luxury Cars

24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#12991 of 24700 Re: Autoextremist loves the new LS [oac] by dewey Jan 11, 2006 (6:11 pm)
Replying to: oac (Jan 11, 2006 3:53 pm) The LS does NOT need any paper listing of features to dethrone the 7 and S. It already did, 15 of the last 17 years.... Get it ? Yes I get it. Lower priced luxury items usually sell at greater volume. It will be interesting to see how Hyundai's new RWD H.E.L.M. will sell? A luxury Hyundai may be ridiculed at first but may end up selling at the highest volume because of its price. Does that not sound familiar to the Lexus LS, especially 16 years ago? Replies to this message: ljflx (Jan 11, 2006 6:18 pm) dewey (Jan 11, 2006 6:24 pm) ljflx (Jan 11, 2006 6:26 pm) and 2 more...
#12992 of 24700 Re: Autoextremist loves the new LS [dewey] by ljflx Jan 11, 2006 (6:18 pm)
Replying to: dewey (Jan 11, 2006 6:11 pm) "Lower priced luxury items usually sell at greater volume." This is all the more true when they are equal or better and are more reliable after five years than a brand new one from the competition. Replies to this message: dewey (Jan 11, 2006 6:24 pm) ljflx (Jan 11, 2006 6:26 pm) dewey (Jan 11, 2006 6:28 pm)
#12993 of 24700 Re: Autoextremist loves the new LS [ljflx] by dewey Jan 11, 2006 (6:24 pm)
Replying to: ljflx (Jan 11, 2006 6:18 pm) This is all the more true when they are equal or better The LS is more reliable. Equal or better? Is that so? Supply and demand dictates otherwise! If the LS was equal or better than all the offerings from German marques then they would be faced with the same situation Jaguar is faced with today. Everybody here can have an opinion which car is better. But in the end markets dictate the truth. Replies to this message: ljflx (Jan 11, 2006 6:26 pm) dewey (Jan 11, 2006 6:28 pm)
#12994 of 24700 Re: Autoextremist loves the new LS [dewey] by ljflx Jan 11, 2006 (6:26 pm)
Replying to: dewey (Jan 11, 2006 6:24 pm) So it has to drive someone out of business to be better. Wow. Replies to this message: dewey (Jan 11, 2006 6:28 pm)
#12995 of 24700 Re: More on Lexus Intelligent Park Assist system [ljflx] by hpowders Jan 11, 2006 (6:26 pm)
Replying to: ljflx (Jan 11, 2006 3:04 pm) People lived in Florida long before AC. It builds character (if one doesn't die from dehydration first). Replies to this message: dewey (Jan 11, 2006 7:44 pm) hpowders (Jan 11, 2006 8:09 pm) tagman (Jan 11, 2006 8:17 pm) and 1 more...
#12996 of 24700 Re: Autoextremist loves the new LS [ljflx] by dewey Jan 11, 2006 (6:28 pm)
Replying to: ljflx (Jan 11, 2006 6:26 pm) So it has to drive someone out of business to be better. Wow. Yes competition is alive and well even in the luxury markets.
#12997 of 24700 Re: More on Lexus Intelligent Park Assist system [syswei] by hpowders Jan 11, 2006 (6:34 pm)
Replying to: syswei (Jan 11, 2006 3:14 pm) No, unfortunately. Of those who made the pilgrimage, and BMW fanatics are urged to go to Munich once in their lifetime; from what I recall, quite a few of those pseudo-enthusiasts ordered their cars completely loaded. I'm shocked that the mother-factory would actually allow this.
#12998 of 24700 Credit goes where credit is due by tagman Jan 11, 2006 (6:56 pm)
Mercedes is not being driven out of business for goodness sakes and neither is BMW. Lexus is good, but NO one should expect the ENTIRE Luxury market to consist of only Lexus's. That's ridiculous. Heck, if I were to waste a bunch more money than I already do, I'd have a couple of Mercedes, BMW's, Jag's and MAYBE even a Lexus in the garage. Why? Because each has it's own unique credentials. For example, will a Lexus outperform a BMW on a tight twisty country road? NO, IT WILL NOT! Will it give a sumptuous ride without many visits to the shop? Yes. Lexus is better at some things and BMW is better at some things, Mercedes is better at some things, etc., etc. I try to respect you Lexus guys for having certain feathers in your caps, but do not try to steal away the ones that rightly belong to the other marques. Credit where credit is due. TagMan Replies to this message: ljflx (Jan 11, 2006 7:56 pm) dewey (Jan 11, 2006 8:31 pm)
#12999 of 24700 Re: More on Lexus Intelligent Park Assist system [hpowders] by dewey Jan 11, 2006 (7:44 pm)
Replying to: hpowders (Jan 11, 2006 6:26 pm) It builds character (if one doesn't die from dehydration first). I guess this is why all serious performance cars should have cup holders. It's good to have character and be alive at the same time. Replies to this message: hpowders (Jan 11, 2006 8:09 pm) tagman (Jan 11, 2006 8:17 pm) hpowders (Jan 12, 2006 5:38 am)
#13000 of 24700 Re: Credit goes where credit is due [tagman] by ljflx Jan 11, 2006 (7:56 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Jan 11, 2006 6:56 pm) Tagman - it wasn't us who suggested that. It was Dewey who said MB and BMW would be in Jaguars shape if Lexus was really good. Thus the comment back was that the need to drive someone out of business to prove yourself is a ridiculous position to take. Seems like something got lost in translation. Replies to this message: dewey (Jan 11, 2006 8:31 pm)