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24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM
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Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: oac (Jan 11, 2006 3:53 pm) Yes I get it. Lower priced luxury items usually sell at greater volume. It will be interesting to see how Hyundai's new RWD H.E.L.M. will sell? A luxury Hyundai may be ridiculed at first but may end up selling at the highest volume because of its price. Does that not sound familiar to the Lexus LS, especially 16 years ago?
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 11, 2006 6:11 pm) This is all the more true when they are equal or better and are more reliable after five years than a brand new one from the competition.
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Replying to: ljflx (Jan 11, 2006 6:18 pm) The LS is more reliable. Equal or better? Is that so? Supply and demand dictates otherwise! If the LS was equal or better than all the offerings from German marques then they would be faced with the same situation Jaguar is faced with today. Everybody here can have an opinion which car is better. But in the end markets dictate the truth.
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 11, 2006 6:24 pm)
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Replying to: ljflx (Jan 11, 2006 3:04 pm) It builds character (if one doesn't die from dehydration first).
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Replying to: ljflx (Jan 11, 2006 6:26 pm) Yes competition is alive and well even in the luxury markets. |
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Replying to: syswei (Jan 11, 2006 3:14 pm) I'm shocked that the mother-factory would actually allow this. |
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Mercedes is not being driven out of business for goodness sakes and neither is BMW. Lexus is good, but NO one should expect the ENTIRE Luxury market to consist of only Lexus's. That's ridiculous. Heck, if I were to waste a bunch more money than I already do, I'd have a couple of Mercedes, BMW's, Jag's and MAYBE even a Lexus in the garage. Why? Because each has it's own unique credentials. For example, will a Lexus outperform a BMW on a tight twisty country road? NO, IT WILL NOT! Will it give a sumptuous ride without many visits to the shop? Yes. Lexus is better at some things and BMW is better at some things, Mercedes is better at some things, etc., etc. I try to respect you Lexus guys for having certain feathers in your caps, but do not try to steal away the ones that rightly belong to the other marques. Credit where credit is due. TagMan
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Replying to: hpowders (Jan 11, 2006 6:26 pm) I guess this is why all serious performance cars should have cup holders. It's good to have character and be alive at the same time.
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