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You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Re: Hmm [merc1] by sv7887
Jan 09, 2006 (6:24 am)
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Replying to: merc1 (Jan 09, 2006 5:01 am)

Hi Everyone,
  I'm not all that impressed with the LS460. Lexus PR would have you believe this was the second coming of 1989...It is a nice car, but hardly on par with the original LS400. The original has a flair that this car doesn't. To this day I still get compliments about my 92 LS400..This car is rather conservately styled. The new S Class at least makes a statement. I do find the interior styling of the LS460 of standard Lexus fare. (It was already quite good to begin with) Any AWD option? I haven't read anything about that yet..
 
  However, all that technology is pretty cool. But I'll definitely shop the S Class against it when I trade mine in late next year.
 
SV
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Re: Hmm [sv7887] by syswei
Jan 09, 2006 (6:51 am)
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Replying to: sv7887 (Jan 09, 2006 6:24 am)

There is no mention of AWD yet. I imagine the hybrid will be awd, but it is not at all clear if the ICE versions will have an awd option.
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Re: 2005 sales [merc1], lexus LS460 vs phantom vs Maybach [samstayton] by dewey
Jan 09, 2006 (6:51 am)
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Replying to: samstayton (Jan 08, 2006 10:52 pm)

In my opinion, looking at the LS460L, rolls royce phantom and maybach better be prepared as the LS has all what they have and even more. In a direct comparison LS will handily beat phantom and maybach be it refinement, luxury, technology, craftsmanship, quiteness etc.
 
Calling all potential Maybach and Rolls Buyers! Dont buy a Maybach or RR. Wait a bit longer for the best car on earth called the new Lexus LS and save your money for a box of vintage 1936 Burgundy wine that is renowned for its poignant berry aroma and its subtle sour apple aftertaste.
 
Whoever said posts had to factual?
 
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LS pricing [merc1] by scott1256
Jan 09, 2006 (7:02 am)
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Replying to: merc1 (Jan 09, 2006 1:36 am)

I too believe the $15-20,000 price advantage draws a lot of buyers to Lexus.
 
MB/BMW/Audi/Jaguar have individuality and a better driving experience. However, the value equation is clearly tilted in favor of the LS.
 
The LWB version of the LS will boost sales. At last the LS will offer comfortable back seat room for passengers that are 6' plus.
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Re: 2005 sales [merc1] by brightness04
Jan 09, 2006 (7:11 am)
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Replying to: merc1 (Jan 09, 2006 1:36 am)

I see, still spinning with that MSRP nonsense. Earth to Mitsubishi1, MSRP has little bearing on true acquisition cost for Mercedes nowadays with all the discount going on. It's about as absurd as calling Maybach a $350k car when there is a $100k discount, and it's cross-shopped with a $170k Bentley by every would-be acquirer. MSRP is only relevent to the scribe who has no snow ball's chance in frozen you-know-where actually acquiring the car; anyone who actually spends that kind of money is quite good at maximiizing their money's worth.
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Re: LS pricing [scott1256] by brightness04
Jan 09, 2006 (7:12 am)
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Replying to: scott1256 (Jan 09, 2006 7:02 am)

I too believe the $15-20,000 price advantage draws a lot of buyers to Lexus.
 
The price difference has long been eliminated by MB subsidized lease offers and other discounts.
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Re: LS460 [syswei] by merc1
Jan 09, 2006 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: syswei (Jan 09, 2006 5:52 am)

". As a hopefully open-minded (Lexus-leaning but not Lexus-rabid) person, I'm not automatically going to assume the LS460 is the greatest thing ever.
 
I must give you credit, very smart you are. My teeth were drawn and I now have no where to bite!
 
Just for that I'll try my best to wring some details out of a Lexus person if they're around next weekend. One thing I like about GM and Ford they have actual engineers on the floor at time, not salespeople or company "reps", but honest to goodness white-coat wearing engineers.
 
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Re: LS pricing [scott1256] by merc1
Jan 09, 2006 (7:16 am)
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Replying to: scott1256 (Jan 09, 2006 7:02 am)

I too believe the $15-20,000 price advantage draws a lot of buyers to Lexus.
 
Please don't mention anything factual like that because all you'll get is a bunch of garble about leases. Don't you know that buyers who finance and/or pay with cash don't exist anymore?
 
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Okay, folks, you need to listen this time by pat HOST
Jan 09, 2006 (7:46 am)
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Some of you need to understand that posts which have no other purpose than to beat someone else over the head are pointless, do not get your message across to anyone, and further, are not appropriate and will not be acceptable going forward.
 
If you cannot discuss the ins and outs, ups and downs, plusses and minuses of the cars and the marques without stomping all over someone else, you need to not post at all.
 
Chill out and get back to the productive and interesting discussion that you are all capable of and all deserve, please.

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