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Sedans High End Luxury Cars
24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM
You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: oac (Jan 09, 2006 1:10 am) Oh I'll give you the car is very impressive, moreso the technology than the sytling. The interior looks more or less like a GS or IS with more buttons. The exterior lost something from the original concept IMO. The LS460L in particular looks unbalanced to me. Yes the LS will continue to outsell the S-Class I'm sure, but of course a 3K price increase will still put the LS460 under 60K, while a S450 will cost at least 78K. But according to you this won't make a difference so why even bring up sales? A cheaper car in this segment is going to sell more, common sense to me. On paper at least the LS460 makes the S450, 750, A8 and XJ all seem pointless, but the proof is in the driving and real world evaluations. I don't really see anything unique besides the 8-speed tranny when the LS is compared to the S-Class. The new S-Class has a new fancy sound system of its own along with a PCMCIA card slot for storing songs, 1500 song capacity I believe. Unless the driving experience is better than the LS430, the LS460 will only win over those already sworn to Lexus, IMO. The styling is already a let down IMO. BTW, the Audi A/S8's new B&O sound system might end being better than either MB or Lexus. I seriously would question who is using your ID if anything from Lexus didn't win you over. M
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 09, 2006 1:34 am) Yeah that is pretty embarrasing, ah but this time around you can't include the S-Class because it uses a hard drive too! M |
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Replying to: merc1 (Jan 08, 2006 9:26 pm) Take those MB-colored glasses off!  The LX pre-dated the ML by something like 2 years. Anyway the Range Rover was first. The LX oursold the Range Rover within 2 months of introduction and never looked back. Let's see if the GL can manage a like feat vs the LX.
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Replying to: syswei (Jan 09, 2006 4:33 am) I doubt the GL will outsell the Range Rover. It doesn't have the interior IMO. M |
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Merc you’re right, it did lose something from the concept. And in the shots you posted it doesn’t look as lustrous as in the Lexus site. It now seems to complete the IS GS sausage link. Something happened to that front end. I guess I'll pull out the concept shots and look into it in more detail some other time.
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Replying to: designman (Jan 09, 2006 4:57 am) M
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Come on you Lexus guys this your baby in the flesh! Where is the enthusiasm? I think I said this before when the LF-Sh appeared...speaking for myself only, I think the exterior styling is an improvement over the current car, but I'm not sure I prefer it to the 2006 S. Need to see both in person. The engine stats and mpg are very impressive so I guess I'm enthusiastic about those, but any hp number that starts with a 3 is more than enough so it isn't that big a deal to me. They still haven't provided that much detail on some aspects of the car, plus I would need to see it and test drive it before becoming more "enthusiastic". As a hopefully open-minded (Lexus-leaning but not Lexus-rabid) person, I'm not automatically going to assume the LS460 is the greatest thing ever.
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Replying to: merc1 (Jan 09, 2006 5:01 am) I'm not all that impressed with the LS460. Lexus PR would have you believe this was the second coming of 1989...It is a nice car, but hardly on par with the original LS400. The original has a flair that this car doesn't. To this day I still get compliments about my 92 LS400..This car is rather conservately styled. The new S Class at least makes a statement. I do find the interior styling of the LS460 of standard Lexus fare. (It was already quite good to begin with) Any AWD option? I haven't read anything about that yet.. However, all that technology is pretty cool. But I'll definitely shop the S Class against it when I trade mine in late next year. SV
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Replying to: sv7887 (Jan 09, 2006 6:24 am) |
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Replying to: samstayton (Jan 08, 2006 10:52 pm) Calling all potential Maybach and Rolls Buyers! Dont buy a Maybach or RR. Wait a bit longer for the best car on earth called the new Lexus LS and save your money for a box of vintage 1936 Burgundy wine that is renowned for its poignant berry aroma and its subtle sour apple aftertaste. Whoever said posts had to factual? |
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