High End Luxury Cars

24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#12640 of 24700 Re: LS460 video [syswei] by designman Jan 08, 2006 (3:40 pm)
Replying to: syswei (Jan 08, 2006 3:20 pm) Well, I am now convinced that the LF-Sh is the new LS. In my opinion it is a handsome car. Congrats to all of you LS fans and buyers! Enjoy it!
#12643 of 24700 Re: Getting Drunk over the Lexus [designman] by tagman Jan 08, 2006 (4:13 pm)
Replying to: designman (Jan 08, 2006 2:30 pm) Correct me if I am wrong but I believe it (Mercedes CLS) is the first car to look like a banana. You stand corrected. As much as I love the XJ Jaguar, I do not have the same feeling for the S-Type. Sorry, but the S-Type was the earlier banana. Replies to this message: designman (Jan 08, 2006 6:33 pm) tagman (Dec 13, 2005 7:15 pm)
#12644 of 24700 Re: Getting Drunk over the Lexus [dewey] by tagman Jan 08, 2006 (4:19 pm)
Replying to: dewey (Jan 08, 2006 2:54 pm) WOW! True situation. The 3-series is indeed the bread and butter car, but which model represents the ultimate BMW? The 3? The M3? What then?
#12645 of 24700 Re: 2005 sales [lexusguy] by brightness04 Jan 08, 2006 (4:21 pm)
Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 08, 2006 4:01 am) Very well said, both Lexusguy and Oac. Lexus is the ultimate system integrator (the fundamental role of a carmaker). Other companies don't copy any specific Lexus product because they know damn well it's near-suicidal trying to compete against existing Lexus forte head-on. At the same time, everyone is trying to copy Lexus/Toyota manufacturing techniques . . . in the off chance that Lexus/Toyota should fumble, they may get a break to pull ahead. I'm sure some day that will happen too; Lexus/Toyota won't stay at the top for ever, but for now and the forseeable future . . .
#12646 of 24700 Re: Getting Drunk over the Lexus [ljflx] by tagman Jan 08, 2006 (4:25 pm)
Replying to: ljflx (Jan 08, 2006 2:18 pm) Tagman - I'm not a fan of model replica... So this cookie cutter stuff is not for me... We agree totally on this, ljflx. As I mentioned, Mercedes is apparently going to break out of this approach with the new upcoming models, but it definately appears, unfortunately, that Lexus is entering into this to a greater extent with its newer models. We'll see what difference it makes, if any. TagMan Replies to this message: ljflx (Jan 08, 2006 4:33 pm) tagman (Jan 08, 2006 4:43 pm)
#12647 of 24700 Re: Getting Drunk over the Lexus [tagman] by brightness04 Jan 08, 2006 (4:30 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Jan 08, 2006 11:49 am) For what it's worth, comparing the back seat of a car to the seats in a private jet was actually started by some MB boffin at a Maybach product intro a few years ago. Kinda interesting, considering "riding on the clouds" has a distinctively negative connotation for some euro lovers nowadays . . . never mind that's the ultimate goal of H.E.L.M since the days of 1906 Silver Ghost . . . almost exactly 100 years ago! Replies to this message: tagman (Jan 08, 2006 4:35 pm) ljflx (Jan 08, 2006 4:46 pm) tagman (Jan 08, 2006 5:37 pm) and 4 more...
#12648 of 24700 Re: Getting Drunk over the Lexus [dewey] by ljflx Jan 08, 2006 (4:30 pm)
Replying to: dewey (Jan 08, 2006 2:54 pm) "BMW would lose the vehicle that defines what BMW was and still is all about: Exciting small enthusiast sport sedans" You know that is substantiating a statement made yesterday - that being the 3 is not truly a luxury car. I'd disagree with your statement on smaller size being key. If BMW driving dynamics were what I was looking for and my needs were a large family sedan than the 7 would be the car and the class leader of BMW in my eyes. Replies to this message: dewey (Jan 08, 2006 4:44 pm)
#12649 of 24700 Re: Getting Drunk over the Lexus [tagman] by ljflx Jan 08, 2006 (4:33 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Jan 08, 2006 4:25 pm) Tagman - I haven't read what you are saying about class differentiation with the S and the rest of MB. The S has been the lead changer in the MB model line-up so I'd expect the E and C to be cookie cutter copies within a few years. Have you seen something to the effect that this go round will be different? Replies to this message: tagman (Jan 08, 2006 4:43 pm)