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You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Re: Getting Drunk over the Lexus [tagman] by ljflx
Jan 08, 2006 (11:59 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 08, 2006 11:49 am)

Did you read my post right?? I said one of these days one of the lux mfs would get a chip in the window like jetblue for sat TV. Second I wasn't even sure if they are referring to a 9" rear monitor as a home entertainment center in this Lexus. So I said that if it is one than one day I'd let my wife drive for once and I'd sit in the rear and take in a movie. Talk about stretching things. Geez.
 
Finally I do view that car - with those interior appointments, that power and gas economy, those looks and the way I know it will be built, as a car that sounds like a dream car - in this lux family sedan segment.
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And we now pause for a hostus interruptus by pat HOST
Jan 08, 2006 (12:25 pm)
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This is a great debate, mostly, except when it has degnerated into the very unnecessary personal comments that have cropped up over the last 24 hours or so.
 
Please keep your comments directed to the vehicles and the marques and refrain from making comments and insinuations about other posters.
 
It's not hard to do, really, and if you want to convince others of your point of view, including slams about other posters is not going to get the job done - trust me.
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Re: Getting Drunk over the Lexus [ljflx] by tagman
Jan 08, 2006 (12:46 pm)
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Replying to: ljflx (Jan 08, 2006 11:59 am)

Don't get too serious. Your post was fine. Plenty of reason to get excited when a new car comes out. We can all get like kids in a candy store, and let's not deny it.
 
BTW, good thing you're a Jets fan. Giants sure got clocked.
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Re: Getting Drunk over the Lexus [tagman] by ljflx
Jan 08, 2006 (1:26 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 08, 2006 12:46 pm)

23-0 in a game that wasn't as close as that score. Well - it will allay the bad stories on the Jets and Edwards for awhile at least. I liked Herm - the man was a class act and a natural leader.
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Re: Getting Drunk over the Lexus [ljflx] by tagman
Jan 08, 2006 (1:43 pm)
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Replying to: ljflx (Jan 08, 2006 1:26 pm)

Being from California, I've had to endure the demise of the 49er's from the Montana/Young days to today's worthless mess. But, to confess, I'm actually a Raiders fan, and those Giants put the Raiders to shame over New Year's, when the Raiders could not move one yard past the Giants in 4 attempts. Oh well. Another year goes by.
 
What do you think of the new LS front end? Too similar to other models? You know, Mercedes is supposedly at the end of similar-looking models that are only downsized-looking versions of the flagship. The new S-Class will put an end to that, and then a new C-Class will follow with more individual styling, and a new E-class with more individual styling. The CLS is unique already. But, I'm concerned about VERY similar design appearances developing between the Lexus models. What's your take on this?
 
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rather impressive imho by syswei
Jan 08, 2006 (2:12 pm)
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LS460 4.6 liter, 380hp, 370lb-ft, mid-20s blended MPG
 
750 4.8 liter, 360hp, 360lb-ft, 21 MPG blended
 
S450 4.6 liter, 335hp, 339 lb-ft
 
S550 5.5 liter, 382hp, 391 lb-ft, 20 MPG blended
 
Let me be the first to say, any of these is more than enough for me personally...at this point, the stats basically offer bragging rights versus the german car fans and are of modest real-world utility to me, except maybe the mpg.
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Re: Getting Drunk over the Lexus [tagman] by ljflx
Jan 08, 2006 (2:18 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 08, 2006 1:43 pm)

Tagman - I'm not a fan of model replica. Lexus is just doing this foray now for the first time. I buy at the upper end so looking at a much cheaper car in the IS or the C-class if I were an MB buyer - as a smaller look alike is not something I'm happy about. I always thought the design features of the S-class (current car) were beautiful but looked bad on a much smaller car like the C. So this cookie cutter stuff is not for me but if the whole market is doing it what can you do about it.
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Re: Getting Drunk over the Lexus [tagman] by designman
Jan 08, 2006 (2:30 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 08, 2006 1:43 pm)

The CLS is unique already.
 
Indeed it is. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe it is the first car to look like a banana. But hey, it's selling like hotcakes so who am I to argue. MB has a serious identity crisis. Then again, and I've said this before, they could collapse in a puff of smoke and people will be stepping on each other to salvage the badges. That's how strong the brand is.
 

 
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Re: rather impressive imho [syswei] by syswei
Jan 08, 2006 (2:34 pm)
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Replying to: syswei (Jan 08, 2006 2:12 pm)

The stats on the ICE LS make one wonder how the hybrid is going to look. Might we see it perform near the V12s from BMW/MB? Well, at least we know the MPG is going to be good.
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Re: rather impressive imho [syswei] by dewey
Jan 08, 2006 (2:35 pm)
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Replying to: syswei (Jan 08, 2006 2:12 pm)

True the selected specs you chose to compare the Lexus LS460 is more impressive than the Germans.
 
During its introduction the specs of the new Lexus GS did sound impressive too, but I guess most members here know how well the GS compares to the competition.
 
During its introduction the specs for the Lexus IS350 sounded impressive especially when compared to the BMW 330i. Unfortunately superior specs does not neccessarily guarantee superior road tests.
 

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