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You are in the Sedans
What is this discussion about?
Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
#1161 of 24723 I saw an ad for the BMW 7 Series...
Jun 07, 2001 (7:49 pm)
...and the lease was $799 a month. More reasonable than a $1K lease for an S-Class or A8, but at that price, why not just go all the way and purchase the car. Factoring in residual value and given a decent down payment you'd have been better off purchasing the car in the first place.
I see a lot of young people getting themselves in trouble by leasing a high-end car. I once considered leasing a new 1992 Cadillac Deville but waited two years until I was able to buy a 1994 model. I still have this car today, fully paid and it is still faithfully serving me.
#1162 of 24723 New 7 series...
Jun 07, 2001 (8:28 pm)
Looked at the pics and read the article (twice) in C&D on the new 7 series.
I think it will be a huge winner. Way to go BMW!
Jun 07, 2001 (8:37 pm)
While that sounds like a good lease deal for the big BMW, just note that the 7 series will be radically changed in the next model year or so. If that model changeover does not matter to you, then it is a good promotional lease price for a fine automobile.
Jun 08, 2001 (6:29 am)
No, the Infiniti dealer insists that I park it right in front of the dealer. That way, at least, 1 spot in the parking lot is filled! When I go to a Benz dealer they insist I park next to the Garbage bin!
Nope, don't take weekends off just to test drive cars. DO it sometimes, just to waste time with a friend or 2. The Q45 would be the 1st car this year I would test drive.
Jun 08, 2001 (8:48 am)
You need to relax ripnrocket. It just seems like you will not allow anybody, from Road and Track to Edmunds, to a bunch of other observers, say anything nice about the Q, without having the need to chime back with something negative. You are that guy who always has to get in the last word. The guy that you try to avoid, or walk away from, at the cocktail party.
You should probably stay home this weekend and put those new white lenses on your Honda tailights. That seems to be the current rage among Honda owners.......Oh, ...you already have them?
Jun 08, 2001 (12:00 pm)
Don't be so hard on ripnrocket, he has his favorites and that is OK. What is there not to like about the Mercedes S class? It is a great automobile.
However, it is hard for me to disregard the huge price differential between an S class, or even my own 740i, vs the Q45. It must be easy to forget about the money if you are not realistically trying to budget for the purchase of any of these cars.
Jun 08, 2001 (12:39 pm)
I would not stop ripinrocket from test driving a Q if he has an opportunity. A friend of mine is an auto broker. I have spent many a happy Saturday afternoon taking cool cars I certainly never intend to buy out for a spin. Why not if you have the chance.
Jun 09, 2001 (7:49 am)
I don't know what the story is nationwide, but in two months we have sold almost as many 2002 Q45's at full list than we sold 2000/1's all last year at significant discounts.
Jun 09, 2001 (8:00 am)
So you sold one? Way to go!
Jun 09, 2001 (11:15 am)
Rocketman, do you deny that Q45 is more/a lot more car (to me and others) for the money in its price range? If according to you the Q is close to the 7-series and 7-series by any reasonable account is more of a car then 5-series, it follows that the Q is at least equal to the 5-series despite its small trunk about which you seem so obsessed.
Reasons are personal especially when a car selection is concerned, they are objectively neither wrong nor right contrary to your opinion. My reason that I would prefer Q of all the cars in its price category (5-series, E-clas etc) is because it has an air of exclusivity and sublime sophistication. In other words, to paraphrase one of the Marx brothers, I wouldn't want to belong to a driver club that would have people of your ilk as members. This is perfectly good and "right" reason, among others, for me though I would imagine that it wouldn't be to you.