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24723 messages,  Last post on Jan 28, 2013 at 6:55 PM

You are in the Sedans Forum.

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#11467 of 24723 Re: The fallacy of ljflx's point [brightness04] by dewey

Nov 24, 2005 (7:56 am)

Replying to: brightness04 (Nov 23, 2005 10:48 pm)
In case you missed it, BMW Financial leases have lower money factors, and at the tail end of a lease, there is greater difference between auction returns and the projected residues by BMW Financial. These are signs that BMW has been subsidizing leases
 
No Kidding!!
  
Have I said that BMW does not subsidize leases? So what is your point?
 
If you think you can win a debate by having the last word with pointless information then so be it! I will let you have the last word!
 
BMW Financial Statements are deteriorationg? You seem greatly misinformed! Here is a link to BMW Group's Interim June 2005 and Annaul 2004 Financial Statements!
 
 BMW F/S

#11468 of 24723 Re: The fallacy of ljflx's point [dewey] by ljflx

Nov 24, 2005 (10:10 am)

Replying to: dewey (Nov 24, 2005 7:56 am)
Dewey - there were a number of financial reports recently that said BMW's results were disappointing and profits dropped. Maybe you missed it. And - I have no intention of proving those reports to you.

#11469 of 24723 Re: Merc Benz Question [tiny1] by designman

Nov 24, 2005 (11:15 am)

Replying to: tiny1 (Nov 24, 2005 12:24 am)
A steering wheel shudder in a specific speed range is usually characteristic of front wheels being out of balance. If the shudder is in the seat, it’s usually a balance problem with the rear wheels. The problem is, if they already balanced them incorrectly on two occasions, I would be hesitant to let them make another attempt. But if you do I would make sure it is done by a different technician. It will obviously cost you extra to take the car to someone else. Are these new or old tires you are talking about? In any event the place you want to go on Edmunds is the “Maintenance and Repair” section in the thread entitled “Tires, tires, tires.”

#11470 of 24723 Re: Comical [dewey] by designman

Nov 24, 2005 (11:17 am)

Replying to: dewey (Nov 23, 2005 8:25 pm)
The car I am lusting after is a sport wagon. Unfortunately BMW does not believe wagons and power are compatible.
 
Dewey, haven’t you heard about the M5 wagon coming next year? I think they have rocks in their heads. They would be better off leaving it to a 330, 530, 550 and even an M3. Based on engines and transmissions, I would prefer the RS6 and E55 wagons over the M5 Conestoga. But indeed, nothing would outhandle an M5 wagon loaded with a stack of sheetrock!
 
http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103566

#11471 of 24723 Re: The fallacy of ljflx's point [ljflx] by designman

Nov 24, 2005 (11:23 am)

Replying to: ljflx (Nov 24, 2005 10:10 am)
And - I have no intention of proving those reports to you.
 
Now there’s a confident man with no desire to do an ounce of work on Thanksgiving day. I’ll give you a pass today, but come Monday morning I want the spreadsheets in full regalia. And, in your report I want you to go straight to the bottom line… the details bore me!
 

#11472 of 24723 Re: Two Easy Questions [brightness04] by blckislandguy

Nov 24, 2005 (11:35 am)

Replying to: brightness04 (Nov 23, 2005 10:59 pm)
Brightness, how did you compute the actual cost of a 330i rag top at 38K when leased?
 
PS Warren actually leads a very stolid life (albeit his marital status was always curious). There are no computer monitors in his office and he receives no more than 12 calls a day. The antithesis of today's financial "advisor".

#11473 of 24723 Re: The fallacy of ljflx's point [ljflx] by dewey

Nov 24, 2005 (11:39 am)

Replying to: ljflx (Nov 24, 2005 10:10 am)
Relative to the auto industry as a whole, the financials performance of BMW is doing quite well! I guess you are referring to the news item below:
 
BMW said third-quarter net profit fell 6.5% to €448 million ($540.8 million) from €479 million a year earlier, hurt by the weak dollar and the revaluation of a Rolls-Royce convertible bond, as well as higher oil prices and other raw-materials costs.
 
These are tough times in the auto market. Including for TMC which in its latest quarter saw decline in its operating margins !
 
From Yahoo Finance Nov. 5, 2005
 
 Still, Koichiro Suzuki, senior investment manager at Sompo Japan Asset Management, said that investors -- who had high hopes for Toyota's earnings -- may sell the stock out of disappointment.
 
"The fact that profits fell shows that costs were higher than expected. This is the same sort of pattern as Nissan ... The result certainly falls a little short of expectations," he said.
 

#11474 of 24723 Re: Comical [designman] by dewey

Nov 24, 2005 (12:16 pm)

Replying to: designman (Nov 24, 2005 11:17 am)
But indeed, nothing would outhandle an M5 wagon loaded with a stack of sheetrock
 
An M5 wagon would be my idea of a dream wagon. But the price tag hurts more than a sheetrock over my head, OUCH!!!

#11475 of 24723 Only Because of Subsidized Leases by hpowders

Nov 24, 2005 (12:17 pm)

Without its subsidized leases from BMW Financial Services, BMW would be a loser in the USA.
Who in their right mind would actually buy a BMW?
Just the thought of it gives me the chills.
 
The new 2007 LS. Now there's a car I will probably buy!
Sometimes, you just have to think smart!!

#11476 of 24723 Re: Only Because of Subsidized Leases [hpowders] by dewey

Nov 24, 2005 (12:26 pm)

Replying to: hpowders (Nov 24, 2005 12:17 pm)
The new 2007 LS. Now there's a car I will probably buy!
Sometimes, you just have to think smart!!
 
Sounds very smart! But I prefer the lower IQ alternative!
 
Thank God for those BMW-subsidized leases because now I can afford a BMW M5 versus paying the same amount for a unsubisidized lease on a Lexus ES330

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