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Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
#11319 of 24723 Re: CD changer [merc1]
by lexusguy
Nov 16, 2005 (8:44 am)
Yeah, I wasnt surprised to see that GM has abandoned their "value pricing" strategy in favor of the usual heaps of incentives after the showrooms became ghost towns in October. GM has been the "Bob's discount mattress warehouse" of car companies since 2001, and that kind of consumer perception takes years to change, not one month.
Ford is definitely in better shape, as I think one of their biggest problems was their dull as dishwater styling on products like the 500 and Freestyle. People seem to like the Fusion quite a bit. Mercury is somewhat of a mess, and Lincoln is an even bigger mess, but I think the Ford core brand will be fine.
I'm very curious to see what Volvo is going to come up with in the next few years. Ford seems to want Volvo to compete with brands like BMW and Mercedes, and to push Jag up into the Bentley stratosphere. I'm not sure the plan for Jag is such a hot idea, but a bunch of dramatically sportier V8 powered Volvos will definitely be interesting.
#11320 of 24723 new hybrid system in 2008
by syswei
Nov 16, 2005 (9:11 am)
TOKYO (Reuters) - Toyota Motor Corp. (7203.T: Quote, Profile, Research) will begin using a cheaper and smaller hybrid system from 2008, more than doubling production of the fuel-sipping vehicles by then to 600,000 units a year, the Asahi daily reported on Wednesday....
By making the system smaller, Toyota aims to slash the premium by half and expand its use to most of its mid-sized or larger cars, the Asahi said, without citing sources.
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#11321 of 24723 Re: CD changer [merc1]
by killerbunny
Nov 16, 2005 (11:05 am)
I can't believe you and ljflx think that just because the same 10-15 people post over and over in the 2007 LS thread that means something magical for the LS and doomsday for the S-Class.
That I agree.
Everytime I read a piece of boring crap trying to play down the best selling luxury brand, chances are it is from that same 1 person.
#11322 of 24723 Re: CD changer [killerbunny]
by dewey
Nov 16, 2005 (11:25 am)
That I agree.
Everytime I read a piece of boring crap trying to play down the best selling luxury brand, chances are it is from that same 1 person.
Which global luxury brand leader are you referring to BMW or MB? In fact there seems to be more than 1 person that plays down these two best of the best luxury marques
#11323 of 24723 LF-Sh pic coincidence?
by docnukem
Nov 16, 2005 (11:44 am)
I checked some pix of the Lexus LF-Sh at:
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and had to do a double-take when I opened the side-profile view (the light blue car). If you get the same page/ad I had, there is an Infiniti M ad just above the thumbnails. I pulled the Lexus profile pic below the M profile pic and noticed an odd resemblance.
#11324 of 24723 Re: CD changer [dewey]
by syswei
Nov 16, 2005 (12:22 pm)
BMW or MB...two best of the best luxury marques
You forgot to say imho.
Funny, when anyone criticizes anything done by a German car company, that person is "downplaying" German achievement. But when a German carfan criticizes anything a Japanese company does, he is only spreading "truth".
#11325 of 24723 Re: CD changer [killerbunny]
by ljflx
Nov 16, 2005 (12:27 pm)
"I can't believe you and ljflx think that just because the same 10-15 people post over and over in the 2007 LS thread that means something magical for the LS and doomsday for the S-Class."
I've never posted that this was an indicator of anything. But I am quite surprised that the S-class board is so dead with a new model around the corner. In fact the last post, which broke a long drought, was by someone at Edmunds raising the possibility that every S-class built since 1999 may have to be recalled. But I wouldn't discount what OAC is implying either. In 2000/2001 the new LS started to get a lot more posts as well before the 2001 intro, and the car was red hot exceeding 2001 sales goals by 40%. I think the interest in the 2007 car is far greater than the 2001 car and I fully expect this car will dominate this segment.
#11326 of 24723 Re: CD changer [syswei]
by dewey
Nov 16, 2005 (12:31 pm)
It was all in jest!
I dont think Killerbunny was referring to MB or BMW?
I like the G35 and cant wait for the new generation ! I dont discriminate a car based on nationality.
#11327 of 24723 Re: CD changer [ljflx]
by dewey
Nov 16, 2005 (12:34 pm)
But I am quite surprised that the S-class board is so dead with a new model around the corner.
So what does that prove?
It may just mean the S drivers dont participate in these forums! The lack of attendance does not imply anything about the new S.
#11328 of 24723 Re: CD changer [dewey]
by ljflx
Nov 16, 2005 (12:38 pm)
Doesn't prove anything. I'm just surprised because there were plenty of S-class posts - by real owners - in the past, particularly in the 2000-2003 period.