Last post on Jan 28, 2013 at 5:55 PM
You are in the Sedans
What is this discussion about?
Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
#10720 of 24726 Re: Have a look... [lovemyclk]
Oct 21, 2005 (2:40 pm)
Without diving into a pointless holy war on this matter, my 2003 530SP has been as faultless as any Lexus could hope to be, not to mention more enjoyable to drive!
I often wonder if the rest of the world drivers with cars and trucks do not enjoy driving them ? How is your 2003 530SP more enjoyable to drive than say my 2003 Matrix XR? That car is small, nimble, and tight; about the only negative is its puny 130HP motor. But when you get it going to the 3000rpm range, it sure moves... like every other car out there. It remains a myth of mythical (pun intended) proportions that those with SPs enjoy their driving more than any of us with our luxury cruisers... What if my ideal ride is a luxury cruiser ???
As to your other point: How about BMW or VW getting an in-dash multi-CD changer ? That ain't that much of a technological marvel to do these days, or is it ???
#10721 of 24726 Re: 2007 Lexus LS pictures! [lexusguy]
Oct 21, 2005 (2:45 pm)
"One thing I would like to see Lexus do is provide better chairs. They need to rip apart a Volvo seat and copy it to the letter."
AMEN to that, guy...... Very flat and unsupportive....
#10723 of 24726 Re: Have a look... [ctsang]
Oct 21, 2005 (6:55 pm)
This make the Germans look even worse. How then can they put a $100K car together and make it work?
Simply because they want their cars to be equipped with more sophistication than competitors. Unfortunately greater sophistication and complexity involves more bugs and a longer learning curve for the driver!
BMW is attempting to dumb down and simplify idrive to the same level as their competitors. I believe I read that MB is trying to reduce the complexity of their Command system. If these endeavors do happen then there should be little distinction between a hardware/software bug attired in a Kimono or in Lederhosen .
#10724 of 24726 Re: Have a look... [oac]
Oct 21, 2005 (7:05 pm)
As to your other point: How about BMW or VW getting an in-dash multi-CD changer ?
Oh man that is just so passe! IToday ipod is essential while a a CD changer should be an option for those geriatric folks!
#10726 of 24726 A Luxury Cruiser!
Oct 21, 2005 (8:07 pm)
What if my ideal ride is a luxury cruiser
A Luxury Cruiser: In my case give me a chauffeur and wake me up when the ride is over!
#10727 of 24726 Re: Have a look... [lovemyclk]
Oct 21, 2005 (8:47 pm)
When BMW started (in 1994) they used VDO, which is part of Siemens. By the way, they were the first ones in Europe.
#10728 of 24726 Re: Have a look... [dewey]
Oct 21, 2005 (8:48 pm)
" IToday ipod is essential while a a CD changer should be an option for those geriatric folks!"
Call me geriatric, my dear Dewey.... But I still want my multi-CD changer cos all my music so far are on CDs. Only this past week my daughters bought me my first iPod, a Nano, from their baby sitting money, so I am now keeping up with the Joneses !! So, yes I will like an iPod plug in my next luxury cruiser in addition to my multi-CD changer, pls. Thank you, Lexus...
#10729 of 24726 Re: Have a look... [lovemyclk]
Oct 21, 2005 (11:48 pm)
"my 2003 530SP has been as faultless as any Lexus could hope to be, not to mention more enjoyable to drive!"
See, this is where drivers of German cars and Lexus drivers have dfferent philosophies. German drivers think 2 years of reliable service is enough to call a car "faultless". We dont think quite the same way. Call me in ten years, and if its still faultless, then yes, it would be in the same league with Lexus.