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#994 of 1520 Re: 2000 Limited [idntnvu]
Aug 15, 2004 (2:30 pm)
Ok, so now we're in the right place, I like Buicks, don't get me wrong. It's wierd, but Olds and Buick were my two favorite GM brands. My last Buick was a 91 Park Avenue, and while I really liked the car, it did disappoint me in quite a few areas. Like the short in the Windshield Wipers where it would intermittantly turn on the wipers for no reason. But the real pisser was the freeze plugs started leaking on the 3800 engine at about 40,000 miles, and had to be replaced - out of warranty of course. That turned me off. Concurrently, I had a 92 Continental which, while not a paragon of reliability either, was a much nicer vehicle.
So, keep us informed about Dad's Avalon - er, I mean LeSabre.
Aug 15, 2004 (6:14 pm)
My 03 has an armrest in the rear in the leather option. It does have cupholders in it even, but doesn't have a cubby hole for storage like the Park Avenue does.
The front cupholders on the 03 at least are great. The way they're built in makes them more sturdy than other hangon types earlier cars had.
Is that what yours are like? Is there a flip cover over the end of the front armrest that turns over to expose the cupholders?
The horn doesn't blow as easily as it should because of the stiffness of the plastic. I practice hitting the right spot sometimes, just to know where it is when I need it.
Freeze plugs: Haven't had trouble in 150K on my 1993 LeSabre, nvbanker. No trouble on the 98 LeSabre either, yet. I would guess you were unlucky enough to hit a sequence of bad plugs from a supplier (or poor specs from GM's engineering department).
Did have leaky intake manifold on 98 and uneven lockup on torque converter due to wear in valve body where the control valve moves to limit slip.
If it makes it to 150K b efore tranny needs a rebuild, I'll be perfectly happy. May buy a smaller pickup truck as next purchase.
Aug 15, 2004 (7:04 pm)
Yeah, I'm the only guy I know who lost his freeze plugs on a 3800, and I had a lot of those engines. I liked em, they were torquey, economical and pretty dependable, generally.
#997 of 1520 Re: imidazol97, nvbanker, macarthur2
Aug 15, 2004 (10:10 pm)
This Buick has a set of Mastercrafts on it with the white walls turned to the inside. They are not factory tires, and are relatively new. I doubt they've been on the car even 1k miles. The car sat a lot, so we're hoping it's just flat spots on the tires. After riding in the Buick, and then driving my Explorer, which does have a tire out of balance (both at highway speeds) I can tell a big difference.
I've heard that some people have had a lot of trouble keeping the tires balanced and their front ends aligned on LeSabres. Anybody else?
The window started working again this morning when we got in the car to go to church, only to dissappoint us later on by not working when we actually needed to roll the damn thing down. "Typical GM" has been uttered many times in the past few days. My mom's '93 SSEi had window problems as well. Both rear windows would go out intermittantly and only work when they wanted to, and the passenger window wouldn't work with the passenger door switch most of the time, but the switch on the driver's door worked every time. The switch was replaced, but didn't make a difference. Only window she never had trouble with was the driver one. Appears the Buick is going to make up for that.
Heading out to West Virginia this morning for the Fair. Going to take the Explorer up there, then leave Tuesday morning for Pigeon Forge TN in the Buick.
So far around town the gas mileage (according to the DIC) has been pretty poor, less than 17mpg. Dad replaced the air filter today, so that may make a small difference.
Speaking of air filters, this car does have the filtered passenger air, and the filter needs to be replaced badly. I'm guessing you can only get those at the dealer? Or can you get them at an auto parts store?
#998 of 1520 Cabin air filter at Pep Boys
Aug 16, 2004 (4:18 am)
I got a Purolator at Pep Boys recently for the cabin at about $17 -- more or less, I didn't pay attention, just throught it was like a ripoff price for gas these days. Dealer was more in the $20s when I put the original filter in (not a standard item in 03).
Alignment problems haven't been something I've heard about. Tires and wheels on 16 inch setups have on most variations of that platform. I'm guessing it's stiffer than others and the lower sidewalls on the 60 tires and wider treads are more likely to send rhythmic vibrations through the chassis if the tires are as good as they should be made.
Tire manufacturers haven't kept up in quality of product as far as rolling round.
On your Mastercraft tires, I'd find a tire store or dealer that has a Hunter 9700 and pay them to check the tires and wheels out for you. I'd worry that the tires will never roll round, especially if they did sit a long time and aren't higher quality tires.
#999 of 1520 2000 Limited
Aug 17, 2004 (6:36 am)
My son recently bought a 1998 LeSabre and really likes it. His first car was a 1988 LeSabre that's still going strong (he only sold it because he had a 6 month deployment in the Persian Gulf). It did need some repairs along the way, but hey, it's 15 years old now! I'm not big on GM cars generally but the LeSabre seems to be a pretty decent car. It gets better gas mileage than my Maxima too. I would like to hear other people's experiences with them. My son likes it because he's 6'3".
#1000 of 1520 Re: Cabin Air Filter
Aug 22, 2004 (7:45 pm)
While we were on our vacation, we stopped at a Pontiac dealership (Larry Hill Pontiac, Sevierville TN) and got a price for a cabin air filter. $61.00. What happened to $20 something?? For that price, we'll just do without it!
Aug 23, 2004 (1:56 am)
IF the car already has the air filter in place on the passenger side under the hood, the REPLACEMENT filter is what I said earlier. You pull on the filter element and it comes out of the plastic holder frame.
When I bought the holder frame and a new element at the dealer, that price was about $60. The filter had been standard on LeSabre in 02 but now in 03. I decided to pay to put it in.
They told me at the dealer the replacement filter was twenty something out of the total price for the adapter plus element of $60.
As I said, the filter at Pep Boys, a Purolater brand, was in the high teens.
#1002 of 1520 Ahhhh....okay
Aug 24, 2004 (1:56 pm)
Well that makes sense. I didn't really pay attention to the way the filter and frame were made. Do you have to buy a replacement filter first or can you just replace the insert in the original?
#1003 of 1520 If you have the filter frame
Aug 24, 2004 (5:39 pm)
and element already in place, you are buying only the paper filter. The plastic frame came with the car originally, or in my case I had to buy it and a filter element as the adapter kit to put in what Buick left out to save a few dollars thinking most people won't miss it now.
The filter element looks like an engine air filter for the 3800. But it folds near one end and you insert it into the frame and dthe folded end sort of snaps downward to lock in place and form a seal for the incoming air. About $17???