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#84 of 1520 Waiting Issues, Etc.
Jan 07, 2000 (1:31 am)
I had the same experience as boat4 in not finding any responsiveness from Buick or my local dealers in purchasing a 2000 Limited model. I placed a factory order back in August. After waiting three months (I was told the hold-up was because I wanted the Driver Confidence Package) I cancelled the factory order with the local dealer and instead faxed written requests to about a dozen dealers around the state (California).
Within a week a dealer about 100 miles away located a suitable vehicle and I picked it up the following week. The vehicle did not have the sunroof that I wanted, but the dealer made arrangements for a post-market sunroof to be installed. I bought the car for a price just a couple of hundred dollars over invoice and picked it up just prior to Thanksgiving.
There have been no problems with the car, and after driving 2,200 miles I have to say I am quite satisfied.
I agree that Buick is very difficult to work with in terms of factory orders. The company needs to address that issue. I was trying to buy a LeSabre with cash since last summer and it shouldn't take several months to have an order confirmed.
I generally found the Bay Area's Buick dealers to be difficult to work with and found the Central Valley folks more service-oriented.
I don't mind seeing the comparisons between the various vehicles. I seriously checked out other vehicles in the months of waiting, including the I30, Lexus 300, and Toyota Avalon. What I found were short supplies, higher prices, less amenities, and generally less comfort than what the LeSabre offered. The I30 back seat has much less leg room and the reviews mostly say it is an over-priced Nissan Maxima. It was better in some respects than the Lexus 300 or Toyota Avalon, however, and the pricing was close to competitive with the LeSabres in terms of MSRP.
I don't think it would have been possible to get Infiniti dealers down to invoice pricing levels, however. Furthermore, the current Japanese cars are just not cushy enough for me. I drove a nice 1989 Toyota Camry for 7 years and loved it, but the Toyotas now have hard seats and they seem to have cut a lot of corners in the comfort market since the mid-1990's.
I especially like the steering wheel radio and climate controls, perimeter lighting, and cornering lights on the LeSabre Limited. The comfortable seats, quiet operation, and smooth power train are also wonderful. The only thing I don't like is the somewhat drab exterior color options--I settled for the emerald green pearl, but would have preferred something in teal or gold. .
My advice is to shop around your region until you find a dealer who will take your business seriously and get you the car you want. I would not work with a dealer who cannot get an order confirmed within a couple of weeks and/or a car delivered to you within a couple of months. The internet was very helpful in getting me long lists of dealers all over the state to contact.
#85 of 1520 Waiting issuses,Etc.
Jan 09, 2000 (3:51 pm)
I appreciate your comment about waiting. I had my fair share. However I take exception to a few of your comments, especially in my case. First, the seat belt are very annoying. They cut my wife and myself across the neck, with no adjustment(my daughter has a 2000 Impala, same as the LeSabre 2000 and it has adjustable seat belts)I guess the LeSabre is the "cheap Buick". Second is the noise, I have and still drive a 89 Olds Delta 88, that is quiet, its like sitting in a library reading room, but my new 2000 LeSabre sound like a jet runway. It is the noises car I have driven. I also drove my daughter 2000 Impala which is quieter then the LeSabre. Does anyone have any simular problems or ay comments?
#86 of 1520 Torque steer response
Jan 09, 2000 (10:34 pm)
King34, I have experienced some mild torque steer with my 2000 LeSabre Limited with Gran Touring Package. It pulls slightly left when I nudge the accelerator while cruising along. Sometimes when I let off the accelerator, it drifts to the right. I do not notice torque steer when accelerating from a stop or under heavy acceleration. This problem causes the car to wander and requires frequent steering corrections. I have not had the problem checked by the dealer.
This is the only complaint I have about the car. I did not buy a Chrysler 300M because the two I drove had very strong torque steer to the left under heavy acceleration. I did not notice the problem with the LeSabre during the test drive.
The '95 Bonneville that I replaced had no torque steer under any conditions.
Have you had any luck yet getting your torque steer problem corrected?
#87 of 1520 Love it so far!!
Jan 12, 2000 (7:02 pm)
We made it back to the dealer on Saturday to look at the '93 with 48,000 miles we saw the previous Sunday. We found it on the lot, but our salesman couldn't find the keys or any records of it anywhere. Seems a fellow salesman had hidden the keys so he could sell it on Monday to his customer. Well we made our deal and they gave us what we wanted for the '91 Chevy full size conversion van. My wife loves her 'new' '93 LeSabre, although she does miss all the room she had in her van. It rides so nice and smooth and the leather seat are very comfortable. I have confidence that this car will last like many I have read about on this post.
#88 of 1520 Gran Touring
Jan 16, 2000 (5:18 pm)
I am looking at a LeSabre with Gran Touring suspension. I have had Buicks in the past with this suspension and liked the ride. However, I read in one of the car consumer magazines that the 2000 Gran Touring suspenion is too jittery. What is the real world experience? Those of you who have 2000 LeSabres with the Gran Touring suspension, is the ride or steering jittery over some road surfaces. Thanks for your reply.
Jan 17, 2000 (5:18 pm)
I have had my Limited with Gran Touring Package since June and have 6000 miles on it. I drive a combination of city, interstate highway, and two lane winding country roads. I have never owned a Buick before. I bought the gt pkg because it was highly regarded by auto magazine writers in the early road tests of the 2000 Le Sabre. It also received favorable reports here in this discussion. For my part, I could not tell a great deal of difference from the standard ride in the small amount of test driving I did.
Overall; I have been pleased with the handling of the car and my wife agrees that it takes the curves on winding roads more comfortably than our 91 Camry. I have never noticed any jitters on any road conditions. My surprises have come at the other end of the performance envelope. My Limited does not have the cushy, luxurious, feel that I expected a Buick to provide. This is not a complaint about this car. I chose it. Still, I will probably look at Park Avenue and the Sedan de Ville next time around.
#90 of 1520 ordered new 2000
Jan 20, 2000 (2:29 pm)
I ordered a new 2000 LeSabre with Memory seats, Grand touring and Driver Confidence package the first week in Oct. It to was on hold either for the seats or Grand Touring package. My dealer did keep me posted. In mid November both were opened up for a week. The cars are ordered starting on a Tuesday and my dealer was on line when he got the green light to order. By Wednesday of that week it was closed. The car was made the week of December 6. If boat4 is still waiting for his car he better look at the dealer. He is not online when he should be. My dealer has a small dealership, so size does not matter. I picked up the car last week and drove it to Texas where I am temp working. Great driving and Great workmanship. I was driving a 97 LeSabre, and as good of car as that was this is much better.
#91 of 1520 order finally taken(dgiertz)
Jan 20, 2000 (8:06 pm)
this is boat4 on line. well, the GENERAL finally took my order this past Tuesday (1/18/00). Was told I could expect car in 3 to 5 weeks. MOMMA sure is happy. I am "ON LINE' as the dealer in this case is my BROTHER, and believe me when I say he has been hearing it from me!! Just thought I'd pass it along.
Glad you are enjoying your vehicle as I am sure we will enjoy ours.....
#92 of 1520 2000 LeSabre Limited - NO Problems
Jan 22, 2000 (4:33 am)
I have had my 2000 LeSabre Limited since November (now above 3000 miles on it) and it performs up to my expectations and then some, with one small concern that I hope will resolve in time. The mileage on the car isn't what I hoped it might be.
A combination of city/highway mileage averages about 20-21 mpg. This is the same 3800 Series II engine that was in my 99 Olds 88 which gave me 28-32 mpg mileage. How are you other 2000 LeSabre owners doing with mileage?
As far as the rest of performance goes, it's a really great car.
#93 of 1520 pgparlee
Jan 25, 2000 (9:42 pm)
My 2000 LeSabre Limited has delivered 24.5 mpg over the first 6000 miles. I drive a combinataion of country roads, interstate highway, and city streets. I haven't had the opportunity to drive a long trip on the interstate yet but I would guess it will deliver close to 30 mpg.