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#769 of 1497 new 03 LeSabre by norbnancy May 11, 2003 (5:54 pm)
Hi, I'm new to the Buick board. Traded 00 Impala LS for 03 LeSabre Custom, Ming Blue, only option is side air bags. Le Sabre is a total different car than the Impala LS. I like the smoothness and quiet. Fuel mileage is 28.2, 30.7, and 26.9 which satisfies me. Just turned 1000 miles. Only item wrong was the positive battery cable routing. Surprised to find the battery under the rear seat but I think it is a good location. The pos battery cable was out of place because the assembler did not attach to plastic clip to the stud sticking up from the floor. The lateral wire frame of the rear seat cushion was squashing the cable to the floor pan. May not have ever caused a problem, but there must be a reason for the cable routing and the clip. Buick falls short in not having a storage pocket in the back of the front seats. My 97 Lumina had 2, My 00 Impala LS had 2. I purchased from a "no haggle dealer" Bill Marsh Automotive Group in Traverse City Mi. because of their good service reputation. My expectations are high and so far the dealer and the car has met them.
#770 of 1497 Three years and 36,000 miles by macarthur2 May 12, 2003 (11:11 am)
I have had my LeSabre for just over three years and here is my pros and cons for what they are worth. 2000 Lesabre Custom with prestige pkg, leather package, 16" alloy wheels. Pro: This is a very nice car. My wifes Mom was dying in New Mexico and this constituted about 9 round trips from here in Oklahoma City (503 miles each way). On the highway it cruises 70-75 mph without breaking sweat (at 2100 rpm). Straight highway mileage is 31.4mpg. Great handling and very stable in our ever present crosswinds. Around town (rural/city) it averages right at 22mpg. Quiet. Handles curves at speed better than I ever expected, just hunkers down and goes around. It has never been back to the dealer for anything. Does not have gran touring pkg but I think the 16" wheels give it better handling. Surprisingly good acceleration for 3500 pound car. Titanium blue with blue leather trim is very pretty. I like the gage pkg with tachometer and computer trip monitor/oil press. temp and time to oil change features. Here in Okie land the air conditioner is great but the medium blue heats up pretty good on hot days.Heater/defroster is excellent. I like the AM/FM/CD/cassette player but many others on this site complain about it. Cons: The front cup holder in the center armrest is a joke. Two regular 8oz coffee cups side by side is the biggest it can handle. It is not adjustable just a flip up with 2 holes in the end of the armrest. I guess not many Buick designers drink "Big Gulps" from 7-11. With the prestige pkg and leather option I was stunned to find no center arm rest in the rear and no rear cup holders at all! No seat back storage pouches. The rear seat cushions are made from fresh marshmellows--stale marshmellows would be firmer. No remote gas filler release. (This thing stickered at $27K come on Buick). The standard wheels on the Custom model are the UGLIEST wheels I have seen lately. OEM tires will go at 40,000 miles --Generals. I am greatly pleased with the car, many people compliment the color especially when freshly waxed. But the interior design is not what I expected in this price range. I hope they improved the 2001 and newer models interiors. That's my 2 cents worth.
#772 of 1497 Macarthur2... by jimsxn May 15, 2003 (9:13 pm)
I know what you are talking about...though I have a much older car than yours. This car really grows on you and you get used to the comforts so quick. I have been debating replacing it with something more spicy and have been taking test drives of Passat, Accord, Camry and Mazda. After taking these cars around for a few block - I realize that they are not so much better after all and all have much less space. I have two kids, one in car-seat and it is so comfortable for them too. Now, I am thinking of spending some money on it; put some new struts and a stabilizer bar, larger wheels (17-18 inch may be) and the car will give me another....well...three years at least.
#773 of 1497 Norbnancy by macarthur2 May 16, 2003 (6:30 am)
I think you will really like the Lesabre. In your entry you said you paid extra for side air bags??? They are standard equipment--at least on my 2000 Lesabre Custom (front seats). Also I have never heard of a "no haggle" Buick dealer--Around here that is almost always a Saturn dealer. Here in the Oklahoma City area Lesabres are discounted $3-5000 below manufactures suggested price on the window sticker. Has anyone else experienced no haggle Buick dealers? Anyway congratulations I think you'll grow to love the LeSabre.
#774 of 1497 Macarthur2 No Haggle Dealer by norbnancy May 17, 2003 (6:44 pm)
The No- haggle dealer that sold me the Buick is also a Saturn Dealer at a different Traverse City location. He also has a Pontiac/GMC and Chrysler Dealership that he runs the same way. Service for all but the Saturn is done at the Buick store. The local rebates on the Buick are $3000 from GM. This dealer discounts down from there to about $100 - to$150 over invoice. He shows you the Kelly Blue Book for your trade but, if your trade is exceptionally clean and he wants it for his lot he ups it. I receive the GM discount (GMS) priceless the $3000 rebate which ended up at $20452 plus tax & title fee. The side air bags are listed as option AJ7 for$350 MSRP. I wonder it these were standard in early production. I understand that vehicle content was reviewed and in some cases standard equipment was made optional. This was a fresh car built in March 03 at the Orion Township Michigan plant. I added a beige pin stripe about 1/2" wide that sits in the grove below the side rub strip. The pin stripe follows the grove all the way around the car. The beige stripe on the Ming Blur is distinctive and I can find my Buick anywhere. Enjoy the ride.
#775 of 1497 Spare Tire by oregonaj May 31, 2003 (9:50 pm)
Just getting back to car shopping after a couple of months diversion. Thanks for all the help and good answers to my previous post on 2003 LeSabre Custom options. One more question - does anyone know whether there's room for a full size spare in the space where the "Limited Use" spare is stored.   Thanks, Jim
#776 of 1497 LeSabre Ultra by imidazol97 Jun 05, 2003 (5:00 am)
I read on a car-related website that a LeSabre Ultra, supercharged, is coming in 2004. Hope that's true. Might bring more youthful buyers into the Model.   Add some good colors, like the bright Crimson Red with chrome wheels, and it's going to bring down the average age of the buyers and bring more people in. So many of the colors are, well...., bland. And the same colors are there year after year. There's more to life than sand brown and silvers!   Look at the LeSabres lined up in a dealer's lot, then look at the Accord's colors.
#777 of 1497 Spare Tire / oregonaj by norbnancy Jun 09, 2003 (4:41 pm)
Regular size tire is several inches to large in diameter and width to fit in donut hole. Why would you want regular size spare? I have used donut spares many times at hyway speeds and find no problems. I like the added space that a regular size spare used to take up. I have a 1993 Fleetwood Brougham with a regular size spare and I don't like it. Takes to much room and is very heavy and awkward to remove, and install. IMIDAZO/97---I agree with you on the lack of striking LeSabur colors. I think it would help Buick broaden their owner base. Anyone have slight gear noise at 29 - 30 mph? It does not seem to be getting louder after 2000 miles. I'm not sure I want a technician tearing things apart chasing a noise. Enjoy the ride.
#778 of 1497 Colors by macarthur2 Jun 12, 2003 (4:05 pm)
I'd love to see it in a metallic british racing green with the optionally alloy wheels----sharp

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