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#688 of 1497 2003 LeSabre by imidazol97 Dec 19, 2002 (4:21 am)
Just took delivery or my 3rd LeSabre. After reading comments about ride and wheels _here_ I chose the 16 inch wheels with Michelin Symmetry tires. The ride is more controlled than '98 Limited I have. It's perfect.   Tires and wheels are quiet.   Just wish I could have avoided paying for OnStar as a required part of every option combination that I wanted -- no way to avoid it and get the individual options I wanted. OnStar must be the new profit center -- dealers use "packs", GM uses OnStar, grin...   Any comments from other owners or recent LeSabres?
#689 of 1497 imidazol97 by beach15 Dec 19, 2002 (3:33 pm)
Nice choice. We had a 2002 LeSabre Custom rental for a month when our 300M was being re-built after a wreck, and fell so in love with the car, we planned on buying one once we got the car back. Didn't end up with one, but I still think it's one of the nicest cars on the road for a great price.
#690 of 1497 LeSabre assembly line? by imidazol97 Dec 27, 2002 (2:41 pm)
Some post in the past said that the Park Avenue an LeSabre were assembled on the same line as a 'Cadillac Model. What one was that? _-- or am I remembering wrong?
#691 of 1497 Assembly line by beach15 Dec 27, 2002 (5:06 pm)
Like several large GM cars, the LeSabre rides on the G-Platform. Because of this, the LeSabre comes off the same plant line as the Buick Park Avenue, Cadillac Deville and Seville, Pontiac Bonneville, and the dying Oldsmobile Aurora. Hope this helps!
#692 of 1497 Vibration when in gear 92 Lesabre by buick92 Dec 31, 2002 (7:11 am)
There is a vibration, when at idle that disappears when car is put in neutral..Old buick, that I love, has 120,000 miles without any problems to date, except an alternator, two water pumps, and a coil. great car.
#693 of 1497 Vibration Buick 92 by imidazol97 Jan 01, 2003 (8:57 am)
Have you replaced plugs and wires? I did that at 90K. My great service manager at small town dealer told me to do that on both 93 and 98.   Do you feel the vibration the same in reverse and drive?  I assume you've looked for hoses or wiring bundles  that might be transmitting vibration when engine is twisting again transmission load?   Have you checked the PCV valve? It may be not sealing closed at high vacuum at idle if it's dirty and gunked up if the oil ahs not been changed regularly and often?   If engine oil's been changed regularly and you don't think the roughness might be something major in engine, you might try some Techron engine cleaner in gasoline (available at most mass parts stores and some others now line Meijers in Midwest). Try one in tank when low with fillup of GOOD brand gasoline (I use Plus or Premium). Then do it again within a half of a tank after the first gas is run through. It's got one of the best cleaners in gasoline (Exxon's brand of cleaner for their gasoline).   These are things I found from my 93 LeSabre. Too there was a prom update for roughness at load at lockup on the torque converter under light throttle at 50 or so. I thought it was wires and plugs, but BUICK had a mixture change and a change in the lockup speed for torque converter -- it won't lock in until 50 mph. It used to lock in at 45. That way you don't notice the roughness under load since the converter is not locked up.   Good luck.
#694 of 1497 G-platform by imidazol97 Jan 01, 2003 (10:00 am)
Thanks Beach15! That's what I wanted to know. Is there a webpage that explains the differences between the various models by platform? Or explains the differences between the Seville, Deville, Park, and LeSabre that come down the same line?
#695 of 1497 imidazol97 by beach15 Jan 01, 2003 (11:47 am)
Not sure of any specific website that describes the real differences between cars, but I can look. Also, from experience, the only main differences in the G-Platform among the cars it is used are slight variations in wheelbase, and really diverse suspension tuning. The LeSabre, for example, is tuned the softest of all its "relatives", while the Pontiac Bonneville SSEI is tuned the firmest, with the stiffest shocks, springs, and roll bars. In between those two are the other Bonneville models, the Aurora tuned for sport/luxury, and the Deville and Seville, both of which come in a few specific flavors of their own. In addition, most offer variations in stability control systems, but are all very similar as far as overall width.   It is also common that the many suspension pieces, for instance, are interchangeable between the various cars. One of the most significant differences are engine choices and differences.   Overall, every model is quite closely related. Hope this helps, and I'll try to answer any other question you may have, if possible.
#696 of 1497 beach15.... by jimsxn Jan 02, 2003 (9:01 am)
That's a very good post.... I own a 94 LeSabre and it's fast even without a supercharger but a little wallowy. So what you are saying is that SSEI's suspension components will make it firmer around corners? What particular components would make the most difference? Thanks.
#697 of 1497 Re Wallow by jimsxn by imidazol97 Jan 02, 2003 (10:30 am)
My dealer was replacing rear struts on LeSabres back in 92 93 to satisfy some customers, using Pontiac SSE or something like that struts. They were the last ones without air leveling in the rear. The dealer put those Pontiac struts on to stop the front-back wallow the soft LeSabres had. In my 98 with air leveling on rear is much stiffer than 93 Custom was. I replaced 93 struts at 35 K because I couldn't stand the soft wallow it had. Replacements fixed the problem. (Monroe struts.)Replacements were same for Pontiac, Olds and Buick cars...  It did not have air leveling on rear. Just traded it for 03 Limited. New one is almost too stiff. But only has a few miles on it. What an evolution in ride.

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