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#194 of 1520 Kazoo noise
Jul 18, 2000 (1:51 am)
I must be one of the lucky ones, I have a new 2000 LeSabre Limited and had the dreeded wind noise. I called Buick direct and needless to say they knew nothing about it and I should see my Buick dealer. Well I did, and I was lucky to find their trim man there that day and he exactly what to do. All he did was loosen the windshield and re seal all around it. I just came back from a 2500 mile trip and had no problem with "Kazoo" noise.
Jul 18, 2000 (3:53 pm)
I'm sure a lot of people are going to appreciate your telling them the fix. Mine never did it but apparently it happens on some cars. Hats off to you and the trim man.
#196 of 1520 I got the Kazoo too!!
Jul 19, 2000 (3:39 am)
well gentlemen, I've been reading this topic for sometime now because I was preparing to purchase A new buick lesabre. I thought that I would be one of the ones who would not get a car with the "DREADED KAZOO NOISE", wrong. After purchasing the car 6/28/00, everything seemed great, I really love the way the car drives and handles. On a 400 mile trip to visit my children I discovered that at 75MPH the noise developed.
It comes and goes. On 90 deg. days and above it acts up, on cooler days(early mornings) I've had the car up to 125MPH (this car will fly and still had power to go)there was no noise. Go figure! Thanks to "marvd" I have something to take to the dealer. With this percentage of problems, you would think a service bulletin would be sent out.
Thanks for all the information all you fellows have posted. I will report back soon. By the way "marvd" , where did you take your car, I may be close enough to take it there?
#197 of 1520 Buick vs...
Jul 19, 2000 (5:49 pm)
I've read through most of the postings... (Seems like much are placed by Infiniti salesmen!) When comparing the LeSabre with the Ford CV, or Merc GM, (which are both excellent vehicles, which my family has owned), the cars are quite different. (Regardless of being marketed together.)
The Ford and Merc are able to give you excellent size and strength (a mini Town Car) for a great value. Plus, who can say 'no' to a V-8, even if the 3.8 is just as fast! However, its greatest drawback is the RWD, which, even with traction control, is no match for the front drive LeSabre. (We have two '95 Chevy LT-1 Caprices,(As well as a 96 Chevy SS) which also were marketed as competing vehicles, but are totally different in every way. I love the size, strentgh and power of the Chevies, but they are wide, and, like any very powerful RWD car, without traction control, are a nightmare in anything more than mist!)
Our '97 LeSabre, by far, it is the cheapest vehicle we have ever had maintain. Like most GM cars, serivice is minimal, and cheap. The tires seem to last forever, (my experience has been 50K on previous FWD GM's), the 3.8 is like an anvil, has no timing belts (Like almost all GM's), which most of the imports, and Chrysler's have, has super long life anti-freeze (unlike the Fords and most imports), plugs are good for 100K, no scheduled tranny service, (though I will at 50K), the brakes, even in the harsh city life this car lives, also seem to last forever.
Try that is most other cars, especially the imports. (Although the 3.8 is old fashion, anyone can fix it, it can be abused, and not having a timing belt is a real plus for those few who actually own their cars for the long run.) The only servicing this car has had, besides 3K synthetic oil changes by me, has been a fuel filter and drive belt at 30K. The build quality was the best of any car.
Drawbacks are a small guage cluster, (it has the full guages,) and a wimpy suspension, despite the grand touring. Also, on a car like this, I wish it would have what even the cheapest Chevy Cavilier has -- pass-thru trunk, and map pockets. (The car has NONE!) The traction control, which is overpriced on other cars, was a bargain.
Also, unlike the imports, the car can be heavily discounted, and has various rebates and incentives, (+ AARP discounts) at times.
As compared, my Chevy's go thru belts, brakes, and tires at a much faster rate, (the car is a tank, though), and there is much more to service, such as rear-end differential, and repacking bearings in the front.
Soon to be ordered will be an 2001 LeSabre, with all the "good stuff" (traction, touring susp, stabili-trak) for my dad. Although I wish him to stick to the rear-drive sedans,(like the CV or GM) he's alway's owned, (He has one of the Chevy's), the RWD has now turned him off. The control in the bad weather of the Buick is night and day compared to the Chevy.
As for long term life of the big sedans from Ford and GM, my family still has an '83 Olds 88 (Dad's former, former, car!) no engine work ever, never burned a drop of oil!) his former 88 Merc GM (original everthing, no problems ever, except for the A/C which stopped last year), and mom's 88 Pontiac Bonny (NEVER a problem, everything works, car looks like new, even though it was never pampered.) (As a confession, the current LeSabre is hers).
As an added benefit, these American Sedans are very cheap to insure.
If any Q's about any of these cars, or maintenance, let me know. As a disclaimer, I have been a high school auto and driver ed teacher for 15 years, and a true motor-head and car nut. I truly beleive in sticking with American designed, and American owned car companies, and furhter believe that we do not operate on a level playng fieled in this country as compared with American companies trying to sell abroad, especially in Japan. Overall, many American have an inferiority complex, knocking our cars, even though many have never even been in one, lest drive and own one!
Jul 20, 2000 (12:10 am)
The car is 2.5 weeks old and was driven 500 miles this last weekend. The 'sound' kicks in above 65 and gets progressively louder and more constant as you go faster (80). Spoke to dealer service and they are aware of problem and use an outside windshield service to reseal the trim around the windshield. Said to expect about an hour. GM has not issued any 'correction'.
By the way, the salesman that sold me the car was also aware of the problem and knew of the 'fix'.
On my car, the sound is at the driver side post---you can feel the vibration point at the edge of the windshield.
#199 of 1520 Torque Steer
Jul 20, 2000 (3:28 pm)
Just bought a Buick LeSabre Limited one week ago and already have 900 miles on it. I drive 110 miles back and forth to work. Am very pleased with the car, but apparently have the dreaded torque steer. The car pulls to the left at high speeds and when accelerating from a dead stop. I called the dealer and he said wait until there are 2,000+ miles on the car, saying that sometimes these things work themselves out. Any ideas?
#200 of 1520 Never noticed torque steer
Jul 21, 2000 (2:39 am)
I have a 2000 LeSabre and although I usually am gentle on things mechanical I do boot it from a stop sign or to pass and have never noticed the torque steer you mentioned. Could be a tire problem, try rotating them--or have the dealer do it under warranty. Once in a while a tire comes out out of round.
#201 of 1520 Kazoo and Torque Steer
Jul 23, 2000 (1:55 pm)
Thanks for all the information about the Dreaded Kazoo Sound. Armed with this info I'm taking it to the dealer to have it "Looked at". Hopefully they'll take the right action.
About the Torque steering, I think it is fairly typical on the 2000 Buick. I have it on mine also but it doesnt seem to be very strong. Before I bought the car I read a road test report that had mentioned the problem so I guess I wasn't surprised when it happened.
#202 of 1520 MARVD-THANKS
Jul 24, 2000 (1:05 am)
Not a computer guru,use internet very little,not even that familiar with .coms,but glad to be at this Town Hall!! Thanks "MARVD". You may have saved a lot of us days--even weeks or months waiting on a factory response. Wish us luck;hopefully our dealers will be as competent as yours.Will keep in touch.
Jul 27, 2000 (8:14 pm)
Took the Buick in today for "The Fix". Resealing the windshield. Heading out for a 3600 mile trip and will be back after labor Day. Will let everyone know how "The fix" Worked. Thanks to all who talked about the problem, probably saved our sanity. Fingers are crossed!!!