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'92 LeSabre Horn by dave1081
Jun 08, 2009 (6:03 am)
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Love my well preserved '92 LeSabre however the horn has not worked since I bought it last December. All fuses are fine, and a friend with a meter revealed there is no current where the wires plug into the horn itself. Is there a relay somewhere in-between I could check?? Taking apart the steering wheel should be a last resort. Also, the horn buttons on the wheel are kinda' popped out (not flush with surface of wheel), though they feel like they would still work. I've heard it's not uncommon for Buick horn buttons to do that.
 
Very uncomfortable driving without a horn in rush hour traffic. Doesn't anyone (besides me) actually turn their head to check the blind spot anymore?
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Re: '92 LeSabre Horn [dave1081] by imidazol97
Jun 08, 2009 (11:52 am)
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Replying to: dave1081 (Jun 08, 2009 6:03 am)

From a 95, the relays in the relay center on the firewall are, AC compressor, HORNS from left. The cover is held on by two or three twist clips. Under it are large fuses and relays. There may be a label inside the cover when you take it off that gives the positions and circuit for each.
 
So Horns is #2. The relays have a flat spring prong that you raise using a steak knife, and then the relay will slide out toward you. The prong snaps over a hook when you push the relay back in.
 
The relays there are several of the same part number. So you can switch the AC compressor and horn relay to see if that makes yours work.
 
Good luck. And let me know what you end up finding!
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98 Buick Lesabre Misfires by gds52383
Jun 10, 2009 (9:14 pm)
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Hi I have a 98 Lesabre with 120k on it. Recently the check engine light came on and started flashing. I took it to advance auto where it was tested and it came back misfire on cylinder 4. I decided to get a new set of spark plugs and change them. I found out it had the original plugs in it. It runs alot better and the check engine light has went off, however, it still hesitates on acceleration and sometimes jerks around 55 mph. I don't think that the problem has been completley solved although it runs alot better. The wires look fine. Could it be the high voltage distributor caps? Any ideas on what I should check? Any info would be greatly appreciated.
 
~Greg
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Re: 98 Buick Lesabre Misfires [gds52383] by imidazol97
Jun 11, 2009 (5:14 am)
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Replying to: gds52383 (Jun 10, 2009 9:14 pm)

I hope the plugs are AC Delco plugs. Some have had trouble with substitute plugs. I believe the number is 41-101.
 
But you must replace the wires also. They probably wore out before the plugs. Replace with AC or Belden OEM quality wires--NAPA has AAA discount if you choose Beldne, e.g.
 
Most likely the wires' resistances are high because the carbon layer has deteriorated with age and use. Putting new plugs in helped but the system is still marginal. Running plugs and wires long also is said to deteriorate the coils. But change the wires first.
 
The coils are best checked by comparing the resistances of the high voltage side where the wires plug in. To compare the primary side, you take each coil off, insert something to make contact internally to measure the resistance. Then clean and coat the prongs that the coil sits down onto. Coat with dielectric grease. BTW, put dielectric grease on the inside of the new wires when putting them onto the spark plugs; it makes them easier to remove.
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94 LeSabre strange power door lock issue by cherrybomb
Jun 15, 2009 (9:59 am)
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Hi - I'm scratching my head on this one so any insight is appreciated! I have a 94 LeSabre with just 44k miles. The drivers side rear door will lock using both the power door locks and the remote keyless entry, however it won't UNLOCK this door using either of them. The other 3 doors work fine. The PDL motor obviously works since it is locking the door, but what can cause it not unlock it only? Thanks!!
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Re: 94 LeSabre strange power door lock issue [cherrybomb] by imidazol97
Jun 15, 2009 (1:17 pm)
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Replying to: cherrybomb (Jun 15, 2009 9:59 am)

You're going to need to remove the door panel to be able to see what the motor is doing. You also will be able to check voltages and see if it's getting power on the unlock cycle.
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Re: 94 LeSabre strange power door lock issue [imidazol97] by cherrybomb
Jun 21, 2009 (7:31 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jun 15, 2009 1:17 pm)

Thanks, I'll give it a try.
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Buying a used LeSabre -- what miles make sense? by malexbu
Jul 22, 2009 (9:12 am)
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I am thinking about purchasing a "backup car". A used LeSabre would
be good, if it turned out to be a reasonably low-maintenance vehicle.
 
I previously had its relative, 1999 Pontiac Bonneville, which I bought
new and traded in, at the 67K miles, for a new Chevy Malibu in 2005 --
the change I've been extremely happy about.
 
And I wouldn't buy another Bonneville, no, thank you.
 
I've researched multiple user reviews for LeSabre, and have mixed
feelings, but am thinking about exploring it further.
 
I'd like to hear any feedback on this, but, specifically, I wonder
what is the highest mileage on a used LeSabre, which makes sense to
consider. E.g. I see a new listing for a 2002 LeSabre Limited with
97.5K miles -- how silly would it be to buy that car, with that
mileage? What maintenance is expected to be performed at 100K? How
much money I should expect to invest in the car over the next 50K
miles?
 
Thank you for any input.
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Re: Buying a used LeSabre -- what miles make sense? [malexbu] by imidazol97
Jul 22, 2009 (10:47 am)
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Replying to: malexbu (Jul 22, 2009 9:12 am)

>What maintenance is expected to be performed at 100K? How
much money I should expect to invest in the car over the next 50K
 
If the owner did good maintenance on it, it's had the coolant changed a couple of times, it's had at least one trans drain and filter replacement, it's had plugs and wires replaced with Delco Plugs and OEM type wires, and news brakes all around. I'd say you're lookiing at less cost than for a high line Accord or Camry.
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Re: Buying a used LeSabre -- what miles make sense? [imidazol97] by malexbu
Jul 22, 2009 (11:36 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jul 22, 2009 10:47 am)

Thank you -- this is useful!
 
I've noticed many messages from you with good technical information,
so your advice is much appreciated.
 
Let me put it differently now: if I take your list and make sure that
everything you listed have been done (from the information I have,
this car has been very well cared for) -- should I be afraid of 98K
miles? Is it much worse than, say, 50K?
 
From my experience with Bonneville, I want to think that 60K or 100K
don't make much difference -- most bad things happened to me before
50K; and nasty annoyances like broken external door handles ($300),
broken trunk spring ($200), water leak through the heater ($500),
broken sun roof (left it with that), engine shutoff on the road, don't
appear to be directly related to the mileage, but what do you think
about this? Would you remove a car with this kind of mileage from
your consideration, or it wouldn't bother you much?
 
Thanks again.

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