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Saturn S-Series, Sedan
Feb 20, 2002 (10:12 am)
You are right about the BS other dealers put you through. I forgot how easy it was to buy a Saturn. We bought the 1999 SL2 last night. I think between seeing it monday night and buying it tuesday night, I interacted with my salesman less than an hour. The finance guy asked me one time about this extended service plan, I said no, and that was it. On to the signing, and we were gone.
When I test drove it monday, I found the receipts from the oil changes the woman who owned it first did--every 3000 miles like clokwork. I did not, however, find a receipt from getting new spark plugs at 30,000 miles or a new air filter--so I made an appointment with the service department to get these things done. If it didn't need them, then new ones won't hurt. If she didn't get them done, then I need them. I will also get them to check the brakes. I think it's like $149 to change the front brakes. They gave me more for my trade than I knew it was worth, so I may just get them done, too, while it's there if it's anywhere close to needing them. The car was originally sold at the dealer I bought it from--so I figure if she liked the car so much that she traded it for another Saturn, then she probably liked and took care of it. We shall see; but, I feel good about it being a good commuter for 3 or 4 years at least.
Feb 20, 2002 (6:30 pm)
my fiancee owns a 1999 sl1 and is wondering if this car has a timing BELT or timing CHAIN, so we know whether to have it changed now that we are up to 60k miles. also, is this an engine that would be damaged if the belt/chain broke?
Feb 20, 2002 (7:32 pm)
It has a timing chain. You have no need to worry about changing it until about 100k. Most chains never need to be replaced but Saturn's seems to need changing around the 100k mark to avoid failure. If it does break, your engine would be damaged severely.
Feb 20, 2002 (8:32 pm)
As seen from my above post, my 93 has 115K miles. I haven't changed the timing chain. My understanding is that as long as the tensioner is in good shape, the chain never has to be replaced. I got a new tensioner around 90K miles. According to the Saturn service schedule, there's no mention of replacing the timing chain. I've been doing most of the maintenance myself, but the few times I've had it to the dealer, they've never mentioned replacing the chain. Considering the severe consequences of the chain breaking, I want to ensure that doesn't happen. Can anyone shed any more light on this?
#885 of 1419 Timing chain
Feb 20, 2002 (9:16 pm)
Saturn timing chains have no scheduled maintinence.
To say they have a life expectancy of 100K is incorrect.
When in doubt check the owners manual - or ask a friendly Saturn service tech.
Feb 20, 2002 (11:10 pm)
I should have been a bit more clear. The timing chain itself isn't a problem, but the tensioners do tend to go around 100k based on some failure stories in here. If it freezes up, you can kiss your chain and engine goodbye. But since there is hardly anymore work involved in replacing the chain while replacing the tensioner, then it's usually done at the same time as a safeguard measure. Since you already replaced your tensioner, I wouldn't worry about it.
#887 of 1419 losing faith
Mar 01, 2002 (9:32 am)
My 99 blackberry 5spd sc2 is losing its reliability . Now with 86K mi the drivetrain is falling apart . Car cant seem to handle Easy highway miles ?(rt 290 and the mass pike are great highways). Both front hub bearings have failed and now steering knuckle has failed ....maybe due to improper bearing install before. Had to replace the exhaust resonator and it burns a qt of mobil 1 evert 1k mi......have done oil changed every 3 to 4k . will need a new car soon and will not consider a Saturn
Mar 01, 2002 (10:54 am)
but 42,000 miles a year is pretty darn hard on any car. What kind of car do you think will hold up better under that stress? Especially one that cost as (comparatively) little as yours did? What did you pay, around $15k or so? Good luck on your next car. maybe a new Corolla would be worth a look for that many miles driven per year. An Elantra's drivetrain will still be under warranty at 86,000 miles, give it a look. I hope it's paid for. I can't imagine what a (barely) 3 yr old car with 86,000 miles is worth on a trade.
#889 of 1419 claywaterfill
Mar 01, 2002 (6:29 pm)
the car will be 3 yrs old this april so the car averages about 30K per yr. Do I think i am asking to much from this car ....no its prettty easy to build a bearing that would last a million miles of stress free highway driving and its also pretty easy to spec a bearing that will last less than 100K mi. i have been around long enough to remember the junk that was sold to consumers in the 70's ....thirty years later its not looking much better PS the car was $17400
#890 of 1419 wwhite2
Mar 01, 2002 (11:06 pm)
Why don't you get in touch with Saturn corp. Although you vehicle is WELL out of warrenty if you can document the correct maintinence Saturn may kick in a little to help with the repairs.
I would be pissed too if I were you - but have you taken the car to a Saturn retailer and gotten an estimate? I would also suggest you go to an independant with a good reputation and get an estimate.
Sounds like you just got a rotten car. Recognizing that it is YOUR car that is bad while many other people are very happy and have never had a problem doesn't make YOU feel any better - what does going to another manufacturer going to do? Just make you feel better. Imgaine if you had bought a Camry in 99 and needed a new engine at 30K but it wasn't covered under warrenty because you didn't service at the dealership?
No car is perfect - how is the engine and tranny doing on yours? We have a car in our showroom with 292,000 miles on it. Original engine and transmission.
Again I would contact Saturn corp - it doesn't cost anything but time -
Hope things work out for you...