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Saturn S-Series, Sedan
#874 of 1419 I loved my Saturn
Feb 18, 2002 (9:55 am)
I bought a used SL1 in 98. It was pretty high miles (50k) for a 2year old car but my regular mechanic checked it out and pronounced it in excellent shape. It had new Firestone FT70's. I just traded it in on 2/9. My wife drove the car to work and back every day in Seattle traffic, plus it got 80% of our weekend use. That includes a 2000 mile round trip to Reno for Super Bowl Sunday 2001. It averaged over 40mpg on that trip, 34 in regular usage. It had 113k miles at trade in, FT70's still had plenty left. It had the cracked head at 79k, fully repaired at absolutely no charge (including a timing belt which was thrown in for nothing since they had the engine apart. The service manager told me he threw it in because he couldn't raise me on my cel phone and it "needed it anyway") I never replaced the brake pads, they were at 30% at trade in time. It did burn oil, about 1.5-2 quarts per 3000 miles. A/C was nice and cold from the get go. I put in one set of plugs and wires myself at 90k. To wrap it up, if you can't afford a Civic, Altima or whatever the Toyota equivalent is, BUY A SATURN!! They are great for their intended purpose: cheap, basic transportation with a little more safety than average for that type of car. The only reason I got rid of mine ( for $2300 trade in ) is because my dog grew up and wouldn't fit in the back seat anymore. I picked up a CR-V instead. I hope Honda makes me as happy as Saturn. By the way, I sent that Saturn of Bellevue Service Manager and his boys 2 extra large pizzas with drinks from the Pizzaria Pagliacci in Bellevue the next Monday. I have never seen service like that in any business.
#875 of 1419 LOL Ssutherland
Feb 18, 2002 (12:44 pm)
Well despite Dweezils assessment of your situation, I can understand what you’re going through. I had a similar Saturn experience with our 95 SL II, “blown engine”. Saturn’s main gripe was I didn’t have regular oil changes at the dealership, and 83 K is considered high mileage by industry standards for an engine. Now, had I bought this car from any other car manufacturer, this would be the response I would expect. I thought, much like you probably did, that Saturn was different. Well to be just as harsh as Dweezil, and it was a tough pill for me to swallow, Saturn really is no different then any other car company. All the fluff at the dealership is all fine and dandy, BUT when I buy a new car, I don’t expect to have to go back to the dealer. And when the warranty expires, well you’re on your own. Fix the transmission, enjoy the car, and when it’s time to get another, remember your Saturn experience.
Feb 18, 2002 (1:59 pm)
Found a 1999 SL2 with 46,000 miles, manual transmission and CD player at a local Saturn store for $6982. Sound good?
#877 of 1419 An excited new owner
Feb 19, 2002 (6:54 am)
I just picked up my Siilver Blue 2002 Saturn SL1 from the dealership last night! And I'm on cloud nine! I am very pleased with my "Saturn Expereince", but reading this post board didn't help much. I believe that now Saturn comes with a powertrain warranty to cover any engine/transmission problems. I am leasing so I don't anticpate having any "major" problems within the 3 years. If so, it'll be covered under the warranty. Well, now I just have to find some places to go and a name for my vehicle! Happy Driving all!
Feb 19, 2002 (8:43 am)
That sounds great on your new car. What made you get the SL1 in place of the Golf? We bought a new SL2 in 1995 and the new body style came out in 1996--we were mad about that. I knew the change was coming, but the salesman said it would be very minor "Just rounding the roof a little." I see a new SL comes out next year. I wonder what it will look like? Looking for a new (to me) commuter vehicle, I have my eye on a 1999 SL2 at my local Saturn store. My 1995 was a good car, so I may get this one. Congratulations, again--and happy driving to you!
Feb 19, 2002 (1:41 pm)
The Saturn was much more affordable to me for right now. Maybe a little down the line I can upgrade. Plus I got sick of dealing with all the bull crap so many dealerships give you...I mean within the last month I had been through some VERY unpleasant experiences!!!!!!!!! I'm a much happier camper now and even had the heart to send a card to the finance manager who helped me AND my salesperson! Thanks for asking!
Feb 19, 2002 (4:19 pm)
From what I've been reading on this message board, Saturns all seem to have the same problems at about the same mileage. I have a 93 SL2 with 115K miles. I've replaced the alternator twice (50K and 100K), engine mount twice (45K and 90K), water leaks (60K), and routine stuff like brakes and tires. Nothing, but routine maintenance since the alternator a year ago; knock on wood. For those of you with slightly more mileage, what can I expect to need replacement in the coming year? I want to try and reach 150K miles before buying the new Infiniti G35 or Mazda 6. Is this wishful thinking?
Feb 20, 2002 (10:12 am)
You are right about the BS other dealers put you through. I forgot how easy it was to buy a Saturn. We bought the 1999 SL2 last night. I think between seeing it monday night and buying it tuesday night, I interacted with my salesman less than an hour. The finance guy asked me one time about this extended service plan, I said no, and that was it. On to the signing, and we were gone.
When I test drove it monday, I found the receipts from the oil changes the woman who owned it first did--every 3000 miles like clokwork. I did not, however, find a receipt from getting new spark plugs at 30,000 miles or a new air filter--so I made an appointment with the service department to get these things done. If it didn't need them, then new ones won't hurt. If she didn't get them done, then I need them. I will also get them to check the brakes. I think it's like $149 to change the front brakes. They gave me more for my trade than I knew it was worth, so I may just get them done, too, while it's there if it's anywhere close to needing them. The car was originally sold at the dealer I bought it from--so I figure if she liked the car so much that she traded it for another Saturn, then she probably liked and took care of it. We shall see; but, I feel good about it being a good commuter for 3 or 4 years at least.
Feb 20, 2002 (6:30 pm)
my fiancee owns a 1999 sl1 and is wondering if this car has a timing BELT or timing CHAIN, so we know whether to have it changed now that we are up to 60k miles. also, is this an engine that would be damaged if the belt/chain broke?
Feb 20, 2002 (7:32 pm)
It has a timing chain. You have no need to worry about changing it until about 100k. Most chains never need to be replaced but Saturn's seems to need changing around the 100k mark to avoid failure. If it does break, your engine would be damaged severely.