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#866 of 1419 Buying a used Saturn SL 2
Feb 08, 2002 (10:32 am)
This April I plan to buy a used SL 2 to use as a second car. I have been looking at the ones on the Saturn lot (on Sunday) and the prices are in the window. I am looking for a 1996 model year but have found the prices to be a lot higher than KellyBlue Book says a Saturn sold retail should be. Do Saturn dealers negotiate prices on used vehicles or do they sell them like they do the new models? I see SL2's in the paper for much less, but I thought buying from a dealer would give me a better chance of getting a decent car with less problems. Any thoughts?
#867 of 1419 My thoughts
Feb 09, 2002 (11:22 pm)
Depends on how much the savings are. Personally I would try to get a 98 or 99 Saturn over a 96 - unless you know the altenator has already been replaced.
All things being equal its better to get a used Saturn from a Saturn dealer - since it was probably a trade in and they wouldn't have gotten another Saturn if this one was a pile of crap.
Many Saturn dealers will negotiate the price of a used Saturn.
#868 of 1419 Used Saturns
Feb 10, 2002 (1:21 pm)
I have been to three Saturn dealer used car lots. No matter how large the dealer is, you only find up to seven or eight used cars on their lots. Does anyone know what they do with all of their trade-ins? One of them is a volume dealer. I am sure that they do not have all wholesale trade-ins.
Feb 13, 2002 (7:27 pm)
I recently looked into trading in for a 02 L series special edition. The deal was $5,000 for my 96 SL2 with 49K. However they did want proof of the transmission service at 36K. and knocked off $200. for bad motor mounts. I wonder what they would sell it for?
I think it is a good deal on the trade, but not overly impressed with the L. No cup holders in the rear. What were they thinking, cheep,cheep cheep.
The other holdback is the same problem as with the S. 110 mile round trip to the dealership and time off from work to do it.
#870 of 1419 L100 no cup holders, L200/300 do
Feb 14, 2002 (4:51 am)
The L100 is the cheap model, no cup holders or console, missing lots of other stuff. It will go away in 2003, leaving just the 200 and 300 level trim. The L200 isn't much more than the L100 special edition but I think it is a much better car. I wouldn't do without heated power mirrors and the height-adjustable driver's seat, for instance, plus the rear cupholders, illuminated visor mirrors, stuff you can live without but which I sort of expect in a vehicle this price.
#871 of 1419 Ssutherland
Feb 16, 2002 (6:43 am)
Sorry you are so thin skinned, but you are being totally unrealistic. You have no case. You are out of warranty. What is so hard to understand about that? You may berate ME all you want,but you will STILL have no case and your dealer STILL has no obligation to you to do anything. Not even as a "goodwill" gesture.
Perhaps I was a little blunt.Were you expecting everyone to hop on the band wagon and say "Call Ralph Nader"??? Complex matter? There's nothing complex here. There is nothing I posted that was not true.Get your transmission fixed, no one else is responsible for picking up the cost except you.
#872 of 1419 Thinking of buying a SL2 but I dont like the tenor
Feb 17, 2002 (2:27 am)
Of the messages posted here. Sounds like these cars have a tendency to leak oil and have alternator problems. Anyone out there reccomend these cars?
#873 of 1419 S series
Feb 17, 2002 (9:35 am)
Until the 1998 model year when Saturn redesigned their altenator you could pretty much count on neededing a new one every 60K miles. This is no longer a problem.
As for leaking oil - that has never been a problem. Before the 1999 model year "some" Saturns would burn oil. For the vast majority of Saturn owners this oil burning was so slight it didn't affect anything. 1 quart every 3,000 miles or so. Not a big deal.
Personally I think with .9% on new ones - its a great time to buy an S.
Also with .9% you can get a GREAT price on a 2000 or 2001 used SL2.
I would be careful when purchasing anything older than a 1998 - have it checked out by a third party
#874 of 1419 I loved my Saturn
Feb 18, 2002 (9:55 am)
I bought a used SL1 in 98. It was pretty high miles (50k) for a 2year old car but my regular mechanic checked it out and pronounced it in excellent shape. It had new Firestone FT70's. I just traded it in on 2/9. My wife drove the car to work and back every day in Seattle traffic, plus it got 80% of our weekend use. That includes a 2000 mile round trip to Reno for Super Bowl Sunday 2001. It averaged over 40mpg on that trip, 34 in regular usage. It had 113k miles at trade in, FT70's still had plenty left. It had the cracked head at 79k, fully repaired at absolutely no charge (including a timing belt which was thrown in for nothing since they had the engine apart. The service manager told me he threw it in because he couldn't raise me on my cel phone and it "needed it anyway") I never replaced the brake pads, they were at 30% at trade in time. It did burn oil, about 1.5-2 quarts per 3000 miles. A/C was nice and cold from the get go. I put in one set of plugs and wires myself at 90k. To wrap it up, if you can't afford a Civic, Altima or whatever the Toyota equivalent is, BUY A SATURN!! They are great for their intended purpose: cheap, basic transportation with a little more safety than average for that type of car. The only reason I got rid of mine ( for $2300 trade in ) is because my dog grew up and wouldn't fit in the back seat anymore. I picked up a CR-V instead. I hope Honda makes me as happy as Saturn. By the way, I sent that Saturn of Bellevue Service Manager and his boys 2 extra large pizzas with drinks from the Pizzaria Pagliacci in Bellevue the next Monday. I have never seen service like that in any business.
#875 of 1419 LOL Ssutherland
Feb 18, 2002 (12:44 pm)
Well despite Dweezils assessment of your situation, I can understand what you’re going through. I had a similar Saturn experience with our 95 SL II, “blown engine”. Saturn’s main gripe was I didn’t have regular oil changes at the dealership, and 83 K is considered high mileage by industry standards for an engine. Now, had I bought this car from any other car manufacturer, this would be the response I would expect. I thought, much like you probably did, that Saturn was different. Well to be just as harsh as Dweezil, and it was a tough pill for me to swallow, Saturn really is no different then any other car company. All the fluff at the dealership is all fine and dandy, BUT when I buy a new car, I don’t expect to have to go back to the dealer. And when the warranty expires, well you’re on your own. Fix the transmission, enjoy the car, and when it’s time to get another, remember your Saturn experience.