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Saturn S-Series, Sedan
Nov 15, 2000 (10:48 pm)
I agree with you on that. The people at Saturn have been great to me and my wife. We have only had it in the shop three times for repairs since we bought it in 1994. They give us a loaner each time and treated us like kings. The last repair when i replaced a front axle they even replaced the windshield wipers for free and aired up my tires, washed the car and other stuff like that. I just bought a Chevy Impala and while I love this car the dealership I bought It from ain't Saturn.
#510 of 1418 2 cents on styling changes
Nov 15, 2000 (10:52 pm)
The old VW beetle had the same body style for years and that didn't keep people from buying them. In my opinion, the less a body style is changed the better because I drive my cars for 10 years or 150,000 miles then get another. If body parts are needed, can always get another at a auto recycler at fraction of cost of dealer or body shop prices.
#511 of 1418 Service and changes
Nov 15, 2000 (11:49 pm)
When people complain about dependability they often aren't aware of what others that own the same model of car have to say. Often it isn't that the part broke but rather how easy is it to fix. I like you have had nothing but good experiences from my dealer. And I have had more than one dealer in my driving life. My worse experience was with Jeep. I doubt if I would ever get another one, and if I did it would never see a dealer. I like the idea that many repairs can be made on this new car by me. I also like the idea that they had a cross section of a Saturn engine for me to look at. I was shocked to see they had a real timing chain...not a rubber belt. It would seem that they expected to see these cars last.
I agree that some styles are classic. And the simple ones seem to be around for a while. Besides take one look at the PT Cruiser and you will see that smooth curves must have some appeal.
#512 of 1418 The Saturn Family Values
Nov 16, 2000 (1:05 am)
I must say that it is very nice to see so many happy Saturn owners in here lately. Saturn's core values are trust and respect for the individual, teamwork, and value. I have a 1998 Saturn SL and have only had one warranty repair done in 2 and a half years. My ignition control module was acting up , and apon 30 minutes notice I gave my Saturn retailer, they took me in right away and fixed it. I was very impressed.
I personally like the way Saturns look , and appreciate the super low maintenance costs compared to the Corolla, and Civic. I intend lease a 2001 S series in a few months. I intend to wait till the new 2003 S Series comes out to purchase. Saturn of course isn't perfect, but what car is? Overall, I am very satisfied with my car and service.
#513 of 1418 Good reasons
Nov 17, 2000 (7:06 am)
I was looking at some earlier posts and I noticed how some people are more than willing to point out how foolish some of us were to buy a Saturn. Many tell us that we should buy a Honda or a Toyota, or even a Nissan. We might respond that Saturn has a 87 percent approval rating by it's owners and is second only to Lexus in Service. But they point out that their choice is so much better. They tell us we are blind to quality and have a false sense of brand loyalty. From those of us that have been around cars for a while maybe we could get a little respect for our choice if a few things were pointed out.
I remember when Honda first started selling cars in this country. How many people remember getting a free Honda 600 when you bought a Olds? I remember a dealer doing that. And believe me I remember what a poor car that was. But people bought it. And they got the next two models also...remember just before the civic came out they had that little car with the fish bowl looking window? And people paid good money for them. They had their reasons I am sure but they were light years behind a good domestic car. Shoot, if they wouldn't have lowered the speed limit nationally they would never make it to the speed limit. Toyotas weren't much better. They were cheep little cars that may or may not have gone 50,000 miles. Nissan was just as bad. They were afraid to use the parent company name and decided to market them as Datsuns remember? Square, slow ugly little boxes. Some might say, "oh they weren't that bad," but I had a B-210 and I can confirm that they were that bad. You had to downshift to get over a cigar butt. And still people bought them. The companies didn't even offer a 3 year 30,000 mile guarantee. All they got was good gas milage, period. People stuck with them and today they are pretty good cars. Are they light years ahead of Saturn? No, and Saturn offers something very few of them do. Honest service and respect for the customer. I think it is time they can learn something else from us.
#514 of 1418 My Dependable 1991 SL2
Nov 21, 2000 (3:10 pm)
I have a first-year production 1991 SL2. It still looks new in-and-out. It drives exacty as it did new back in July 1991. It has just under 160,000 miles on it. It burns about 3/4 of a quart of oil every 3000 miles. I replaced the original alternator at 110,000 miles, the driver-side window regulator just last year, and the original brakes at 115,000 - just as a precaution. I've had to replace the oxygen sensor once, and the MAP sensor once - both were very inexpensive. It rattles at idle as it has from day one. I still believe that the 1991's are the best year. It came stock with aluminum wheels, hand-bent headers, aluminum valve cover, thick anti-sway bars, and it still has a tendency to peel out when shifting into second gear (only when the transmission switch is set to 'performance'). I've had this car for almost ten years, and I doubt another ten will make any difference - as long as I stick to the maintenance schedule. I know other people who haven't been as fortunate, but their cars weren't maintained or treated nearly as well as mine. FYI: If you're replacing the alternator, ignore the instructions! The alternator fits (just barely) over the transaxle. You'll still want to disconnect the negative battery cable. Only a few common tools are needed. It took me only 20 minutes from start to finish! I purchased my alternator through Autozone, with a lifetime replacement warranty for only $134.05.
#515 of 1418 Glad to here about the 91.
Nov 21, 2000 (4:02 pm)
Dependable is the reason many of us turned to Saturn. The owners tend to think Saturns are good cars, the car mags seem to think they are dependable and they place well in all the surveys. The dealers treat you like a person and parts are easy to get. I'm glad to hear that someone likes their ten year old Saturn as much as nice91sl2 does. Lets me know I have a lot of good years ahead of me.
#516 of 1418 Saturn Problems
Nov 21, 2000 (4:47 pm)
I have a 1995 SL1 and have had numerous problems, I've had the engine rebuilt at 80,000 miles. Not to mention all the problems before like a bad EGR valve, brake problems, etc. I'm looking for a second car and I'm not sure if I want to buy another saturn. Most likely it would be the L100. Not sure what else is out there for about the same price. Any suggestions let me know.
#517 of 1418 Re: Saturn problems
Nov 21, 2000 (6:06 pm)
I have a 95 SL2 and also had numerous problems, but they occurred mostly in the first two years of ownership. Right now, I do have pinging on acceleration, and other times when the engine gets stressed out just a bit (like driving on level road at certain RPM before auto downshift and upshift). My mechanic told me to top up oil and it didn't help. In the last few thousand miles (the car just crossed the 50K mile on the odometer) I replaced the fuel filter, replaced oil and filter and replaced the transmission filter. I tanked up on premium gas. I put in the injector cleaner additive. Nothing seems to help.
My question to you (and others who know): Should I replace the EGR valve next? Is it difficult to do it yourself?