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You are in the Saturn S-Series
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Saturn S-Series, Sedan
#170 of 1418 get the SOHC
Mar 28, 2000 (2:21 pm)
The smaller Saturn engine (I believe a 1.9L) is a bit quieter than the DOHC optional engine. You give up a little horsepower, but you will get a smoother ride and better gas mileage. If you really want the extra ponies the DOHC upgrade isn't much extra (I think about a grand).
regfootball: I agree with you on a couple of those, but the Saturn isn't a inferior as you are making it out to be. The 2000 model has been updated nicely and is pretty refined now. Go try one and see.
#171 of 1418 wotta list reg
Mar 28, 2000 (10:24 pm)
let's look at your list here, shall we:
focus zx3 : not a bad car, but new and unproven, especally considering ford's history. Let'
s look at your "points"
*better looking: not to me, buddy.
*larger and better interior: better is is subjective, and if you look at the sc vs the focus in real interior space, it's not that different at all.
"far superior handling and powertrain": based on what exactly? You were wrong about this in the tuarus thread too. Look at a 12.9K sl2. Less HP and torque, bigger car, yet has better skidpad and 0-60. Who has better powertrain and handling now? What is the reliability and safety of the focus??
cavalier: Is ok, but the interior is not nicer(IMO) or bigger.. And I had to rent one for a few days recently, so I know what I'm talking about. Look at the edmunds size stats:
Front Headroom: 39.3 in / 37.6 in.
Rear Headroom: 38 in / 36.6 in.
Front Shoulder Room: 53.9 in / 53.9 in.
Rear Shoulder Room: 53.1 in / 54.9 in.
Front Hip Room: 49.2 in / 50 in.
Rear Hip Room: 50.2 in / 49.5 in.
Front Leg Room: 42.5 in / 41.9 in.
Rear Leg Room: 32.8 in / 32.7 in.
Yep, that cavalier is totally cavernous compared to the saturn!!
neon: another car I had to rent for a few days.
Yes, much much bigger, eh? Actually, the saturn is a hair larger. And the neon has a few more HP.. But has the same acceleration. As before, you like the smaller higher-revving motors.. EXCEPT when they are on a saturn.
protege: Again, you claim the better powertrain.. Without saying what you mean. Better in what way? Your styling complaint. Are you ever going to raise a real point? I personally don't care for how it looks.
corolla/civic: Decent cars, but you don't make any points for them, just say they are "better." At the same price point, they will not have as many features, not have the same acceleration or handling, and not have the same safety scores, which is one of the main reasons I got my car. This is all not to mention cost of service.
jetta: equal room, german engineering ( i.e. expensive to fix ) , and "hip." Whoop-e hold me back. Actually, I really like the golf, and would surely consider one if shopping in that price range, but not for your reasons. Just to let you know I'm not a 100% saturn fanatic.
contour v6: such a great, desirable car ford is cutting it. Didn't this whole thing start over saturn cutting production? What does it mean that ford axed this car?
Again, I'm not saying everyone in the saturn price range needs to get one. Just that your "view" is absurdly biased against saturn. For some reason, you have to post against them despite not having one, or really having a legitimate or major gripe against them as norbert has.
#172 of 1418 This room is done
Mar 28, 2000 (11:23 pm)
I have decided that as much as I used to like coming here to veiw comments from those who know little or nothing about Saturn, and those who really know a thing or two like dhanley. I Won't be coming here anymore, Pointless comments/opinions coming from Flordia DUD , are a waste of my time, and everyone elses here. Rather then continue to see the demise of this room, I think I won't be wasting any more of my time seeing useless comments. I have no further comment. Period.
Mar 29, 2000 (12:36 am)
Here is another little experience with my 95 SL2: I tried to eliminate the rattles coming from the dashboard that are theoretically a consequence of the odometer cable and fuel gage replacements by the dealer during the warranty period. Removed the top cover there and the two side trims. Found that the rattle comes from the instrument cluster right behind the steering wheel, thus strengthening the theory.
Now I know the clusters have to be opened, which requires lowering the steering wheel, etc, per the manual. However, I will never again remove the top cover again, if I can help it. Namely, one of the plastic grips jutting out of it and holding it broke in spite of me doing it all by the book. Cannot afford to lose another one. Moral of the story: All that plastic is more vulnerable than we'd like to think.
BTW, Saturnboy, come back. Your zeal is needed.
#174 of 1418 yeah, saturnboy don't let us run you off
Mar 29, 2000 (1:14 am)
come on now you can't let a little factual logic get you down, We all know you are a fanatic about Saturn, that's what makes your posts so darn funny. Stay awhile
Floridian, (alias the "DUD" !! What a hoot!!
#175 of 1418 Re Window problems...
Mar 29, 2000 (5:09 am)
Did you not read into your car, or did the dealer not explain to you that your car could be returned within 30 days if not completely satisfied? Just wondering...
Mar 29, 2000 (6:37 am)
Hey, I'll be doing something similar myself. At 80K miles the gauge covering started rattling while the car is cold. Gotta pop it open and put a little foam in there to make it stop. It doesn't look too bad--but I'll let you know if I find anything that might help. I wonder if it would be easier to access some of these components from the engine compartment side?
I did something similar myself though. I was putting new speakers on the car and on the passenger side door I flat broke the passenger handle. It still kind of works, but it's really flaky and rattles while you drive. Guess I have to go swallow my pride and have the saturn boys fix it.
Hey, about your trunk floor sagging.. Is the center post of the spare holding it up properly? Did that fall down or get lost? Just a thought.
#177 of 1418 Car sounds!
Mar 29, 2000 (6:41 am)
Ok. What's the big deal people are making about their cars making all these weird annoying sounds (aka winds noises, rattlings, etc). My cavalier has made all kinds of unknown noises since day one (which was 6 years ago). My theory is if it's not a noise that is caused by something that is wrong with the car (interfers with how it runs) then don't worry about it. That's what they put the radios in the car for anyways! isn't it?
#178 of 1418 kinda makes you wonder tho ???/
Mar 29, 2000 (4:21 pm)
jenc1; you are right but all that shake, rattle and roll racket kinda makes you wonder if the rest of the car is so loosely screwed together as well. i put a lot of importance on SILENCE in my vehicles. Most of the time the noisy engine (ever hear a Saturn twin cam 5000 RPM) drowns out any lesser noise on my SC2 but man oh man all that plastic really "sings a song" when it gets cold ( that's not very cold either here in Fla.)but as long as the thing keeps running I guess I'll have to live with it 'till lease is up.
#179 of 1418 saturnboy now at the yugo topic??
Mar 29, 2000 (5:31 pm)
did saturnboy really bail out and can now be found on the yougo site? i thought his other car was a AMC Pacer
that DUD Floridian, gufaw,gufaw, chuckle, chuckle!!