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#927 of 1038 Re: MB E63 [scottphillip] by habitat1 Aug 25, 2005 (10:56 am)
Replying to: scottphillip (Aug 24, 2005 11:10 am) This is just my personal opinion, but the horsepower war that AMG seems to single-handedly being escalating in sedans is NUTS. I drove a 2005 E55 while my Acura was in for service a few weeks ago and if anyone needs more power than that, they really need to find out what is wrong with their self esteem.   What is not impressive is AMG's inability to do anything much other than goose their engines to 600+ horsepower. The SLK55 I drove at the same time was a sloppy excuse for a sports car compared to the less expensive, lower horsepower Boxster S. Compared to the new 911, it is even more of a joke. An automatic only transmission that shifts in manual mode like it's got maple syrup in the gear box??   Go ahead and get 700 hp in your sedan if you want to, but that one dimensional driving experience would get very old for me after about 3 stoplights. Personally, I'd suggest a E320CDI and a Boxster S on the side.   Again, just my opinion.
#929 of 1038 2006 Top Gear review by proe Aug 26, 2005 (5:47 am)
I got this link from AlSi at Superhonda.com, and it is a pitty that the new M5 is "annoying and fragile."   http://members.roadfly.com/jason2/TopGearE60M5.wmv   Have fun. Replies to this message: kdshapiro (Aug 26, 2005 6:50 am) kyfdx (Aug 26, 2005 7:17 am) jb_shin (Aug 26, 2005 8:15 am)
#930 of 1038 Re: 2006 Top Gear review [proe] by kdshapiro Aug 26, 2005 (6:50 am)
Replying to: proe (Aug 26, 2005 5:47 am) Who really cares what a review says. :confuse Have you read other reviews?
#931 of 1038 Re: 2006 Top Gear review [proe] by kyfdx HOST Aug 26, 2005 (7:17 am)
Replying to: proe (Aug 26, 2005 5:47 am) Actually, I've seen that Top Gear video that discusses the M5..   The host spends about ten minutes trashing everything about it.... but, but, but.. then he pushes the button, that unleashes the extra 100 horses...   And, in the end, he proclaims it the greatest car ever!! (I might be paraphrasing a little bit... ). It is very humorous... typical dry British wit.   regards, kyfdx
#932 of 1038 Re: 2006 Top Gear review [proe] by jb_shin Aug 26, 2005 (8:15 am)
Replying to: proe (Aug 26, 2005 5:47 am) Exactly what the other poster said about the review. Jeremy Clarkson, the topgear host always starts out in one direction and does 180 to make a point. Sometimes he will spend too much time doing that than making actual point, so I'd not judge the car based on his approach.
#933 of 1038 2006 M5 by proe Aug 26, 2005 (6:01 pm)
A piece of info that I found very troubling is at end of the show when Jeremy mentioned that when he drove the car on the track all the warning lights of DSC and other safety features came up flashing, and the car had to be towed after "Stick" drove around the track for the official time.   I mean you spend $90k+ for a car that is meant to be driven like a race car, yet in the back of your mind, you have this disturbing thought of what if the car decides to quit on me under "normal" driving condition at nowhere, then how am I going to get home as if it happened before.   All the reviews have been focused on the performance of the car, and the new 2006 M5 is still the King of the Sedan, and no one is saying otherwise. Somehow, I still feel like the quality should be better and the iDrive should be more Acura RL like. Replies to this message: kdshapiro (Aug 26, 2005 7:31 pm) kyfdx (Aug 26, 2005 8:15 pm) proe (Aug 27, 2005 8:27 pm) proe (Aug 27, 2005 8:35 pm) kdshapiro (Aug 28, 2005 5:14 am)
#934 of 1038 Re: 2006 M5 [proe] by kdshapiro Aug 26, 2005 (7:31 pm)
Replying to: proe (Aug 26, 2005 6:01 pm) You cannot buy the car, it probably is a pre-production model that got abused. Every car that gets slammed around like this, whether it be American, German or Japanese will have issues. Replies to this message: kyfdx (Aug 26, 2005 8:15 pm) proe (Aug 27, 2005 8:27 pm) proe (Aug 27, 2005 8:35 pm) kdshapiro (Aug 28, 2005 5:14 am)
#935 of 1038 Re: 2006 M5 [kdshapiro] by kyfdx HOST Aug 26, 2005 (8:15 pm)
Replying to: kdshapiro (Aug 26, 2005 7:31 pm) Not only that... read a few C&D car reviews... "Oh yeah, we had to replace a clutch at 15K miles, due to our 0-60 testing runs.."   "We didn't get the full lap numbers, because on the second run, the brakes overheated and gave out."   Basically, no street car comes from the factory, with the capability to handle the abuse that car reviewers give it...   Ask anyone who tracks their car... Do they take them out totally stock? Not likely...   regards, kyfdx Replies to this message: proe (Aug 27, 2005 8:27 pm)
#936 of 1038 Re: 2006 M5 [kyfdx] by proe Aug 27, 2005 (8:27 pm)
Replying to: kyfdx (Aug 26, 2005 8:15 pm) Basically, no street car comes from the factory, with the capability to handle the abuse that car reviewers give it...   Porsche 911 4S comes in mind from the long term test in May 2005 issue of C&D, and they mentioned that they did not have any problem of the clutch during the long term test after two clutch-slipping acceleration -test sessions.   Needless for me to remind you that BMW has gone though all of the abuses that could possibly happen, so it is all covered. It is a standard practice.   Ask anyone who tracks their car... Do they take them out totally stock? Not likely...   I have to agree with you if we are talking about Acura RSX or Honda Civic, but we are talking BMW M5, which is designed to be able to challenge Porsche 911. Tell me what are the modifications you need in order for M5 to run on the tracks?

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