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1038 messages, Last post on Jun 18, 2008 at 12:12 PM
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I drove up the road with a Mustang convertible in 2001 and had a really good time. There was this little place we stoped where they make woodfire Salmon Pizza. I believe a lady from New Zealand was baking. I envy you. Coming from one of the most beautiful places on the planet (Kenya) I must say California and the US in general is a very beautiful country. |
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I just saw a brand spanking new M5 drive by on PCH in Laguna Beach, CA. I do mean the new V10 M5, not anything else. The car was silver, but the lower 3'rd of the car where the body molding would go was just painted black all around the car. This made the car look very much like a regular 5 series at first glance, then maybe you'd think it was in the middle of some paint job or body molding repairs. But then you notice the 2 double exhaust pipes protruding out from behind it, and you conect the dots. Anyway, I am damn sure this was the M5 concept that's been shown at car shows around the world (not THE car, but one like it of course). I can only assume this car had just come back from desert testing in Arizona or something, and now was heading to the BMW North America HQ which I believe is in Irvine? Unfortunately I didn't have a camera handy, nor was my car parked close enough for me to give chase. And I didn't hear the exhausts so I couldn't hear the V-10, if that's what it was. |
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Just had Sirius radio installed in 2004 E55......the sound is fantastic....display shows through command center....even stock prices etc. on CNBC The car comes prewired...antenna is on the trunk lid but looks ok. |
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I'm reading a similar article at Germancarfans. This new M5 is going to inhale this segment. The E55 will become the "E63" for 2007 most likely with a 600hp 6.3L V8. The next RS6 is supposed to have a 500+hp V10 from the Lambo Gallardo. What next? M |
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I was very pleased to read that the new M5 V10 is only 5.0 liters and will have a redline of 8,250 rpm. That should give it supurb responsiveness and greatly enhance the fun to drive factor over the massive torque, low rpm competition. However, I was equally dissapointed to read that, perhaps, a manual transmission will be dropped in favor of a 7-speed SMG unit. If true, that just about wipes my interest out. Please, no technical analysis as to why an SMG will produce better performance than this old man's ability to shift. No matter how much slower I am at shifting than BMW's computers, I want to DRIVE my sports sedan, not play some virtual reality game boy version with my thumbs. Period. |
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habitat1... Amen, brother. Is a truly sad day when an M doesn't come standard with a real manual transmission. If you can't work the clutch, it is more an AT than an MT. Unfortunately, SMGs and their ilk appear to be here to stay. Ferrari is projecting that their SMG system will be ordered in over 90 of some of their models. A Ferrari without a true manual is sacrilege. [Even the F1 manufacturers and drivers fought the recent rule change proposal to go back to true manual transmissions. Sad.] |
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"Please, no technical analysis as to why an SMG will produce better performance than this old man's ability to shift. In other words you don't give a darn, I enjoyed reading that. M |
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The M5 SMG is supposed to have 11 shift options? Wow. Even a lowly Steptronic is fun to play with. I could spend some time having a go with that thing. But I don't think manual trannies are going away just yet or ever. Too many of today's kids are weaned on them and they are often the "low" option budget for many real-world cars. What with a NEW TECHED-UP 10-CYLINDER ENGINE and NEW TECHED-UP TRANSMISSION, this car is going to be well over $100K. $120 sounds right. It's a freak car, sedan on steroids. It’s the rich kid in school who just has to have it all. E39 M5s never looked so good now. This car will have staying power for quite some time and for many reasons. Curious how the mere-mortal 5s and 3's will still offer 3 pedals. Also, when Porsche drops the manual transmission, then it's time to worry. To all of you stick elite, get yourselves a real sports car and back it up with a low-priced, practical sedan for utility. Sport sedans just don't measure up when it comes to pure driving pleasure and all out fun. The sports car is the real prize for the sport driving enthusiast. And there's lots of stick out there that isn't going away… just yet. MR2 Miata S2000 Boxster 911 Vette Viper NSX SLK Elise The pickins are good. They all look better too. A Bangle-shrouded M5 with a super duper flakomatic automatic transmission? No thanks. I don't care if it could fly to the moon. |
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