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High Performance Luxury Sedans
1045 messages, Last post on Apr 29, 2013 at 5:47 PM
You are in the Sedans Forum.What is this discussion about? Jaguar XJR, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, BMW M5, Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG, Audi S6, Maserati Quattroporte, Audi S8, Sedan
#72 of 1045 Re: M5 and some insights into the future by uofmiami
Nov 25, 1999 (9:12 pm)
Well if it's true, it's cause MB is going to put a V12 into the E55 AMG in 2003 supposedly, so it makes sense for BMW too do the same with the M5. As for the time, I have seen the E55 all over the place from 5.1 to 4.8 sec on 0-60mph and this all from a automatic. One thing I was disappointed in is the lateral g's, I thought BMW would surely be a lot better than the E55 and it's only better by .01 g, I think .89 compared to .88 if memory serves me right. Enjoy your M5 but don't think the E55 is out of your league cause it's not. Drive safely and happy thanxgiving.
#73 of 1045 MB e55 vs m5 by art911
Nov 26, 1999 (8:25 am)
I think that the MB e55 is better than the m5 orthe jag xjr. The e55 is as fast as the m5 in 0-60
and top speed. Both cars weigh about the same. The
e55 has an automatic and is still as fast as the
6-speed manual m5. Imagine how fast the e55 would
be if it had a manual transmission! I have read in motor trend that the
0-100-0 times are exactly the same for the e55 and the m5. The only thing the m5 has over the e55 is maybe its roadholding, but only by a small margin at about .01 g's. The e55 is nicer, more comfortable, and bigger and hey, it's a Mercedes one of the best cars in the world. Just because the m5 comes with a 6-speed manual does not make it the best sport sedan in the world. The e55 is better than the m5 in most ways. Even if it comes with only in a 5-speed automatic. The e55 is the best sport sedan in the world.
#74 of 1045 XJR vs E55 vs M5 by rea98d
Dec 09, 1999 (12:04 am)
Tell me I got all those numbers and letters right. I'd give almost anything to get those cars some normal names. Anyway, I'd tkae the jag first, Mainly because I love the styling, and I'll never be doing 150 anyway
The Benz would be my second choice, and the BMW third. Of course, I could fill my car wish list with Jags and Benzes, but my all time dream car would have to be the new S-Type. And whattaya know, they're nearly half the cost
#75 of 1045 normal names??? by vbnm
Dec 09, 1999 (2:34 am)
by normal names, rea98d, do you mean non- alpha-numeric ones, like the oldsmobile toronado trofeo, buick skylark, or daihatsu charade? ;-p#76 of 1045 kp11 by kp11
Dec 09, 1999 (4:36 am)
the jag is just so unreliable though, and in terms of specs and luxury, the jag is beaten easily by the other two#77 of 1045 and... by kp11
Dec 09, 1999 (4:40 am)
the jag s-type is overpriced.... and an ls400, 540i, e430, audi a6 4.2, and gs400 are all better than it, well i do like the curves of the s-type but THATS IT... its even got a plastic grill......... ok, ok, anway back to the topic for me...#78 of 1045 kp11 by jesseliu
Dec 09, 1999 (6:22 pm)
Have to concur regarding the Jag. I went to test drive one and they gave me a brand new one to drive. IT immediately had a problem and we took it back and took out another one. THe second one have a serious belt noise that was not normal. At that point I just said take me back and left. Talking about the supercharged Jag.#79 of 1045 M5 vs E55 by loujo
Dec 10, 1999 (12:12 am)
All these "M5 better than E55" and vise versa, has anyone actually driven both cars or are you just expressing your opinions after reading some car magazines? Even if M5 can reach 0-60 in 4.8 seconds on paper, how many people can actually do that with the manual tranny (even for M5 owners)? How could anyone say MB is more comfortable than M5 if he/she has not sit in either? As a matter of fact, CAR magazine from UK said that E55 has a much harsher ride than M5. So, until M5 comes out next year...#80 of 1045 U R the winner loujo!! by e34
Dec 10, 1999 (9:18 am)
Very few people indeed have driven either the E39M5 or the E55,(more so the M5) The general rule of thumb is that BMW is more sport oriented and the MB is more luxury,but since this is talking about a BMW M car vs. a MB AMG you must really see them and try both of them out to be sure! I personally drive a 91 E34M5 and there are few cars that even today can compete with it's performance.(yes even your beloved GS400 and BMW540isport owners out there!)nice cars as they may be. BTW kp11 where did you happen to get the opportunity to drive an E39M5? Finally if I had to choose either one today with no opportunity to test drive them I would have to go with the E39M5 but this choice would purely be on my past experience(my E34M5) IMHO BMW's create a feel for the road that I have not had with anyother performance or luxury car I have owned or driven.(owned Porsche,father owned MB)driven vette ZR1,Mustang,Q45,SC400.#81 of 1045 kp11 by kp11
Dec 11, 1999 (4:39 pm)
well i have never driven one, but i have rode in both as passengers... dunno what that tells u, but what i was saying is that the e55 was more comfortable than the m5 and the seats were more supple, in acceleration they are both the same and in roadholding they are both nearly the same, so i guess it all depends on what u want, the "M" suspension is going to be better than the "AMG", but the e55 is more comfortable... so i guess it depends on which u want... u can't go wrong with either that's what i'll tell u... i just wish the e55 had a manual, then it could be faster than the m5!To POST a message, please
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