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Mercedes E55 by movitna
May 17, 2000 (3:38 pm)
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I've been a long time fan of BMW sedans but just made the jump to Mercedes with the ordering of a 2001 E55. This car replaces my 89 BMW 535i and 87 Porsche 911 turbo. I was talked out of the BMW M5 by my German counterpart (Guido Frensemeyer, Mov'it) who sees XJR's, M5's and E55's on a regular basis coming in for brake upgrades. The M5 in Europe is having engine related problems and the brakes (even the 2-pc Euro rotors) are not capable of handling the weight and performance of this BMW super sedan. I drove an E430 was impressed with its performance and suspect the E55 with 100 ft lbs of extra torque should be quite capable. I will replace the brakes on the E55 when I get it (we should have the new Porsche ceramic composite brakes by then) but see no need to alter anything else on the car.


I hope Mercedes continues to evolve this product with further engineering updates but have not heard anything from any of the automotive publications.
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Mercedes E55 by paulchiu
May 18, 2000 (2:41 am)
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Steve,


I am glad you are ordering an 2001 E55, I have a silver version on order for September delivery.


I test drove a 99 E55 last night with 6,600 miles. It was a blast. The gas was very sensitive at first, I zoomed to 60mph in a couple of heartbeats. It felt glued to the road, much better than a BMW 528. I was very impressed that there were no chassis or tire noise. I had been concerned that, with the low-profile tires, there would be plenty of tire noise. But, I was surrounded by comfy seats and the sales-guy let me drove for nearly 30 minutes at speed up to 90mph. I thought the brakes were terrific, why would you want to replace them with Porsches??
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E55 Brakes by jesseliu
May 20, 2000 (3:58 pm)
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Just wanted to add that I've not had any problems with a 99 E55 brakes. I have taken it thru some hard cornering in the mountains and where my old Prelude with upgraded brakes had quite a bit of fade, the E55 had absolutely zero.
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2002 E55 by paulchiu
Jun 03, 2000 (2:22 am)
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So I read in Automobile magazine today that MB will likely put out a super charged E55 with 450bhp in 2002. Okay, should I cancel my 2001 E55 with only 349 and wait another 1.5 years???


I don't think so ! 450 is a little too much, indeed!
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Stalling 4.0 S-type by mwf
Jun 03, 2000 (8:14 am)
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My S-Type has stalled twice within a mile of morning startup. Occurred both times while in a slight right turn.
First happened at about 2k miles. Then today with about 3.5k miles now on it.
Anyone else have this happen? Any thoughts?
Thanks...
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Wow! by powerisfun
Jun 14, 2000 (12:12 am)
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I can't believe how ugly the MB E55 is. I just saw a picture of it for the first time. No offense to owners, I'm sure there are reasons to own one, but to me looks sure isn't one.
   The BMW M5 is actually pretty nice looking. What the heck was MB thinking?
-Tim
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. by ferarri11
Jun 15, 2000 (4:50 am)
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it's just the E class with sport package, nothing ugly about that!!! the AMG is a phantom type car, it'll crush any other car at the stoplight with a sligh push to the gas
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M5 M5 M5 M5 by carman_00
Jun 15, 2000 (2:36 pm)
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The M5 is the greatest. It has great performance and is way better than the Jag and MB
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To Paulchiu by shoes
Jun 15, 2000 (7:11 pm)
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I have an order for a 2001 E55 as well and mine is due in August. As far as I know they are changing almost nothing. One addition to the option list is the active comfort seats from the S-class.


I have the same concern you have- will they trump the current car in 2002. My guess is NO- first of all, they will probably wait until 2003 for the E-55. I hear that Mercedes doesn't want to produce many of these cars because they lose money on them. I think they will have lots of customers for the new body style and won't need to produce their image product right off the bat. I hear also that when they do the next E-55, it will be a supercharged V-8 and not a V-12. In any case, the fact that these details are not set seems to support the idea that we will have to wait until 2003 for the next E-55.


Who wants to wait two years to enjoy the best car in the world. Buy the 2001 and sell it for what you paid for it in two years, then get the 2003.
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. by ferarri11
Jun 17, 2000 (6:28 am)
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the M5, while a great car, according to I think car and driver or motortrend is trumped by the E55- the E did 0-60 in .1 sec more but it had an automatic, so the E would be faster than the M with a manual. Also they agreed that the E 55 had better handling for the most part and was by far more comfortable. The E has a gigantic cabin compartively, though stark. THe E gets its power from the gobs of torque that teh engine produces. The M might have more horsepower but torque is the force that gets acceleration. Plus the E looks more stealthlike.

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