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High Performance Luxury Sedans
1045 messages, Last post on Apr 29, 2013 at 5:47 PM
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What is this discussion about? Jaguar XJR, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, BMW M5, Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG, Audi S6, Maserati Quattroporte, Audi S8, Sedan
#150 of 1045 . by chronic2001
Apr 23, 2000 (4:09 pm)
guys...why are u placing the A8 in those mid-size sedan category? the car is huge...if you look at the statistics, its bigger than the 7 series.the classafications go like this...3 Series (BMW), A4(Audi), C-class(MB), Lexus ES300. than comes 5 series, E-class, A6 , Lexus GS. And than At last come the big boys...A8, 7 series, LS400 , S-class.
P.S.
1)does anyone know when the S6 is going to come out in america...i read that its a 360 horsepower V8. looks like it more powerful and lighter than E55
2) I heard that the 2001 is gonna have M5's engine
(400 hp V8 with ALOT of tourge) can someone image...if a midsize cars with that engine goes from 0-60 in 4.8 sec...than how fast will that small sedan will go? (porshe C4 has a 360 horsepower engine and it does 0-60 in like 4.5 sec.)
#151 of 1045 SUPER SEDANS by kappaman
Apr 24, 2000 (9:16 pm)
Even though I am more so a Jaguar guy, out of these super sedans I would probably pick the E55. The Jaguar XJR is nicer looking, the BMW M5 is faster and handles better, but the E55 will be more of a collectors items. It also looks good, handles well, is fast and probably will keep its value longer. It is a car you keep.#152 of 1045 2001 E55 by paulchiu
May 03, 2000 (9:55 pm)
Anyone knows anything on the 2001 model year E55?#153 of 1045 Are M5's available for purchase? by ivory1
May 08, 2000 (4:22 am)
I went to the BMW dealer this weekend with the intent to order an M5 and they simply brushed me off saying there aren't any available nor are they taking names for a waiting list. If this is the case, it seems BMW should pull the car from their website. I don't know if the problem is a local one or if this is a nation-wide quota problem. Does anyone know what the real situation is regarding M5 availability?#154 of 1045 ivory1 by kappaman
May 08, 2000 (2:34 pm)
Yes, they are available for sell. I've seen them in the Tampa Bay area. I know a salesman at Ferman BMW in Pinellas Park(Phil) who actual sold on to the Mercedes dealership in Clearwater. Isn't that something.#155 of 1045 M5's by mtl3
May 10, 2000 (10:02 pm)
Don't expect to see these in the Sunday auto ads.They are few and far between and going for well above MSRP.
I saw one in a magazine by a private seller that had a delivery number. He indicated that he was entertaining offers above $90k.
It sucks. But, that's the way it appears to be.
#156 of 1045 To all by jpstax
May 15, 2000 (6:23 am)
My rich daughter is hoping to lease an M-5 this fall to drive clients around in. I warned her that it only comes with a six speed manual trans, but it didn't faze her. I also said her clients had better buckle up 'cause it accelerates like a rocket sled. As for American made SUPER sedans, there really are none to speak of. However, the Holden Commodore SS sedan, made in Australia, could give the M-5 some serious competition if it were imported to the states. It's got the Generation III (LT1) engine that makes at least 360-370hp, and looks like the '96 Impala SS.#157 of 1045 Mercedes E55 by movitna
May 17, 2000 (3:38 pm)
I've been a long time fan of BMW sedans but just made the jump to Mercedes with the ordering of a 2001 E55. This car replaces my 89 BMW 535i and 87 Porsche 911 turbo. I was talked out of the BMW M5 by my German counterpart (Guido Frensemeyer, Mov'it) who sees XJR's, M5's and E55's on a regular basis coming in for brake upgrades. The M5 in Europe is having engine related problems and the brakes (even the 2-pc Euro rotors) are not capable of handling the weight and performance of this BMW super sedan. I drove an E430 was impressed with its performance and suspect the E55 with 100 ft lbs of extra torque should be quite capable. I will replace the brakes on the E55 when I get it (we should have the new Porsche ceramic composite brakes by then) but see no need to alter anything else on the car.I hope Mercedes continues to evolve this product with further engineering updates but have not heard anything from any of the automotive publications.
#158 of 1045 Mercedes E55 by paulchiu
May 18, 2000 (2:41 am)
Steve,I am glad you are ordering an 2001 E55, I have a silver version on order for September delivery.
I test drove a 99 E55 last night with 6,600 miles. It was a blast. The gas was very sensitive at first, I zoomed to 60mph in a couple of heartbeats. It felt glued to the road, much better than a BMW 528. I was very impressed that there were no chassis or tire noise. I had been concerned that, with the low-profile tires, there would be plenty of tire noise. But, I was surrounded by comfy seats and the sales-guy let me drove for nearly 30 minutes at speed up to 90mph. I thought the brakes were terrific, why would you want to replace them with Porsches??
#159 of 1045 E55 Brakes by jesseliu
May 20, 2000 (3:58 pm)
Just wanted to add that I've not had any problems with a 99 E55 brakes. I have taken it thru some hard cornering in the mountains and where my old Prelude with upgraded brakes had quite a bit of fade, the E55 had absolutely zero.To POST a message, please
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