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Buick Park Avenue, Sedan
Mar 31, 2002 (5:37 pm)
Unfortunately I purchased my 2001 Park Avenue before I knew of this web site. I also have a vibration problem and have had my car in on several occasions. First it was the balance, then an out of round tire, then bad balance, then Buick moved the motor mounts, (now the car idles as if it needs a tune-up) and finally after a vibrating trip to Florida, new Michelins. Each time the service managers assure me that the problem is solved. They must get their SPIN lessons from the politicians. I also have the sound when I steer right. This is the worst car I have owned in 47 years of car buying. Would anyone of you please advise me how you went about having Buick do something about this problem that they have known about for years. Did you seek arbitration, mediation, lemon law procedures, or sue? Thank you. 2si2mn2jb
#120 of 519 2si2mn2jb
Apr 03, 2002 (8:46 am)
You had better check your states' lemon laws. You should be able to get the generalities on it by doing a search on "Google.com". If you still like the car I would trade it in on a 2002. They have good incentives right now.
#121 of 519 Response to #118
Apr 03, 2002 (5:30 pm)
Thank you for your reply, however I have scanned all previous 116 messages and do not see a message from fredvh. Please excuse me, but I do wonder if you are a Buick representative or a Buick dealer.
#122 of 519 2si2mn2jb
Apr 04, 2002 (1:08 pm)
I'm sure fredvh was just trying to help. What he was probably referring to is that in most cases, the dealership gets just so many chances to fix the same problem. If it's not fixed in that number of visits, sometimes the Lemon Law can be applied to make them compensate you.
I'm sure the reason he suggested a google search for the law in your state is because it does vary.
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#123 of 519 Reply to #118 & #120
Apr 05, 2002 (4:38 pm)
If I stepped on anyone's toes or ruffled any feathers, I apology. This car has been such a poor experience, that the suggestion that I purchase a new one was unacceptable. My intent was NOT to insult anyone.
#124 of 519 pat HOST and 2si2mn2jb
Apr 08, 2002 (7:32 am)
Thanks Pat for your reply to 2si2mn2jb. Your explanation to him was exactly what I was thinking. Lemon Laws do vary from state to state and that is why I referred him to "google.com".
2si2mn2jb: I am sorry if offended you when I suggested that you might consider buying a new one. We all know that sometimes a "good" vehicle can have a defect but it does not necessarily make the total vehicle a failure. I was under the impression that you liked the Buick except for this one problem. I am in no way associated with Buick or General Motors. I was just trying to help you in your situation. The Lemon Law might help you if you can find the details of it in your respective States' laws. If your vehicle fits the
description of the Lemon Law then you can file a complaint or see an attorney that specializes in this type of complaint. I hope this helps.
#125 of 519 Bad Design Causes Vibration
Apr 08, 2002 (1:49 pm)
Like so many others, my '99 PA Ultra vibrated at hwy speeds. It took 5 trips to the dealer and an escalation to Buick to get a "fix.". The fix (really a band-aid) was to replace the Goodyears with Michelins and carefully balance them on the car at a state of the art speed shop (Not the dealer). Any time there is front end work (flat tire repair, new tires, ...) this process will have to be repeated.
I'm convinced that this widespread symptom is the result of a longstanding design flaw; i.e., the natural frequency of the front suspension is equal to that of a tire rolling at highway speed. This will cause any imbalance in a front wheel to resonate way out of proportion to the actual imbalance. The Buick rep said that this (the PA Ultra) is a "Problem Platform" but refused to elaborate. Its really a shame because its a great car otherwise.
Apr 12, 2002 (6:24 am)
At speeds over roughly 55 mph my 99 ultra has a somewhat faint whistling sound that resembles a tea kettle right before the kettle comes to a full boil.It does not whistle when it rains.
The sound seems to come from the lower center of the dash, so I replaced the wiper blades and the passenger compartment dust/pollen filter. Changing the filter which at 50K was quite clogged seemed to reduce the excessive wind noise, but the whistling persists. Any ideas what this could be?
#127 of 519 Looking for road-trip car
Apr 13, 2002 (8:16 pm)
My parents asked me to research a decent car for highway travel. (Current vehicle GMC truck) they are looking to add a 'curiser' car at a reasonable price.
Typical list of Wants/Needs:
Better mileage than GMC, 25 +
Easy to get in & out of.
Lux features (optional),
power to merge/pass (on demand)
Maintainable (backyard mechanic)
I though the 92 - 94 PA Ultra would a be decent fit (nice ride, decent gas mileage, power on demand, plenty of space, luxury amenities, reasonable price - especially compared to the GMC.)
But after reading that the Eaton supercharger is expected to live to 100K - I am wondering on my decision.... would a regular PA be a better choice. (92 - 95 Cars seem to be at or near 100K miles - so an update to supercharger would be additional $$.)
Suggestions are welcome.... especially from those who have had multiple PA's over the years.