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#295 of 1409 Still waiting for my Intrepid.
Feb 17, 2000 (5:06 am)
Well Jason5, I ordered my Intrepid RT from the dealer several weeks ago. The dealer happened to have an Inferno Red RT coming in soon. Based on my manufacturers order number, my car's ship date was yesterday, February 15. I am now seeing quite a few Intrepids and other LH cars on the road (no RTs yet). I am anxious for my car to arrive. None of the few negative comments on this post have made me change my mind about my selection. I still know that there can always be a few rotten apples in a bushel of otherwise good Macintoshes. I am still very impressed with the styling and roominess of the Intrepid. I turned in my 1997 Ford Expedition yesterday, at the end of my three year lease. It seems ashamed to have made large payments for three years and have nothing to show for it at the end. Thank God for the Chrysler Finance 0.9% financing incentive. I'm definitely buying the RT, not leasing. I'm not concerned with the technical arguments made in the negative posts because they are in the faint minority. However, the tenor of the negative posts does concern me. It signals an underlying anger in the Jeffc 1, 2, (and 3?) posters that could get in the way of reasoning. I believe that, in the year 2000, one would have great difficulty finding widespread flaws in the workmanship of Daimler/Chrysler products. The numbers just do not support that notion. There are by far more positive postings than negative in the Chrysler posts. Contrast this with some of the other manufacturers' owner posts and you will see that Dodge and Chrysler do quite well with owners. That doesn't mean that every car that gets assembled will operate flawlessly. I worked on the assembly line for GM early in my career and I saw firsthand how even automated assembly processes can go slightly out of adjustment and cause poor fitting parts or flaws in some vehicles. The machine I worked on stamped out 15,000 parts per 8-hour shift and required readjustment every 6,000 to 7,000 cycles. As for resale value and the complaints i read earlier from Jeffc1, I can say from "real world experience" that most new vehicles are not good investments for those who intend to sell them or trade them one or two years after purchase. I took a bath recently on a 1999 Lincoln Navigator that I bought for my wife and then traded in less than six months when she said it was too big for her. The vehicle depreciated $7K in five months. I got over it. You should too Jeffc1. I have owned a Ford Windstar 1998. No problems at all. A 1997 Ford Expedition. No problems. 1987 and 1990 Nissan Pathfinders. Leaking exhaust manifold gasket at 36,000 miles. 1990 Ford E150 Conversion Van. Electrical problems created by the conversion manufacturer. The only common theme throughout has been a deliberate and determined effort on my part to respond with patience and kindness to each aggravating problem and unfortunate circumstance. Family members have owned everything from Hondas to Chevy Caprices with
all kinds of good reports and bad reports for each
manufacturer. My point is that people who are
experiencing no problems with their vehicles
typically don't take the time post an extended
message on these bulletin board systems. People
who are having problems use these bulletin boards
as an outlet (rightly so). What I am suggesting is that we all could tell a horror story or two about a new vehicle that did not perform to our
expectations, or an insensitive or untrained dealer service rep who left a bad taste in our mouths. Ignorance has no dealer favorites and greed or insensitivity sometimes appear after the sale is consummated. The same frustration or anger that drives some of the comments in this bulletin board, drives the insensitivity we experience at some dealerships or meetings with manufacturer reps. The truth is, we could all stand to be a bit more sensitive, understanding, patient, and forgiving when we encounter lifes problems. If we all lived closer to God's expectations, we might see these problems differently and not let them fill us with anger, resent, and the quest for vengeance. All throughout the posts I have read in this and other
bulletin boards, are stories (mostly legitimate) of bad experiences with vehicles, of all different
makes and manufacturers. Treat these bad past
experiences as just that, a thing of the past.
Don't dwell on it. It's bad enough that the dealer has your money. Don't give them years off your life from keeping that anger pent up inside of you. Pray for God's intervention and a better vehicle next time around. Move on to new experiences, whether with different makes or the same. Eventually, with faith and God's help you will find something that meets your needs and expectations. God bless all of you! I can't wait for my Intrepid RT!
#296 of 1409 gadkins1
Feb 17, 2000 (2:07 pm)
I'm over my resale experience. Just warning others. I'm digging my new wheels. Hope you enjoy yours also. Best of luck.
Feb 17, 2000 (9:03 pm)
I have had a 99 LHS since July 99. Ever since I have had it it has vibrated at about 60 MPH. I have had it back to the dealer 5 times, had a new set of Goodyears but on last August and it still vibrates.
After reading all the other posts today about others having the problem I called Chrysler Customer support. The guy said he searched for a Tech bulletin on the vibration and did not find anything.
If anyone has any info on how to go about getting the dealer to change out the tires, I would greatly appreciate it.
Also if anyone has info on the "Soft Cam Warning" sent to dealers, I would appreciate that info also.
Feb 17, 2000 (10:34 pm)
If I find any leftover HoneyBakedFoods dinner wrappers in the recesses of my RT, I'll be sure to be extra vigilant for problems.
#299 of 1409 LHS resale value
Feb 17, 2000 (11:05 pm)
This past week, in the used car ads here in Orlando, a 1999 LHS - no chrome, no roof - was offered for sale at $20,500. This was as a used car on a new car lot. With a list of about $28000, did this car really lose $7500 in JUST 1 year. Since I put more than 20,000 miles a year on a car, I think this just eliminated the beautiful LHS from my list. Theres no way I can afford to lose this much on a car. I know leasing is an option, but not for me with the amount of driving I do.
I will probably go back to Acura, Nissan, or Honda, even though the LHS is what I want. Why cant DC - or any Amercian car company - make cars that hold their value. THEY are forcing us to buy import cars just to stay ahead financially.
Yes, there is more to a car than just financial investment, but in this day and age, it doesnt make sense NOT to consider this.
I will continue to monitor this post, and if anyone has other resale info on these cars, please let me know.
#300 of 1409 gadkins1 & john_kolodziej-
Feb 17, 2000 (11:10 pm)
BE CAREFUL!! I THINK it was kp1's dealer who sent her flowers or a plant! Others got gift certificates for dinner! I don't even think I got a thank you! Anyway, be careful if they give you a fancy, wrapped Honey Baked dinner!! LOL....
Make sure your health insurance is paid up! ))
I believe all those soft cam cars were caught BEFORE they left Canada! If you suspect that yours slipped through, call Chrysler! There is a way for them to tell if you got the soft cam although it's a job that calls for specific equipment that the dealers most likely don't have- a borascope! I believe these cars were built around Sept. of 99, maybe a little earlier.
#301 of 1409 '99 Wheel vibration
Feb 19, 2000 (1:43 am)
John, in regards to your tire problem, get in touch with your District Manager over the problem. It's the only way you will
Feb 19, 2000 (1:49 am)
Marsha, I did not order the Michelins at Tirerack. They were ordered by Chrysler for me. I just used Tirerack to find the tire I wanted. I did however buy tires from tirerack for my Probe GT. My local dealer installed and balanced them with no issues. The warranty is carried by the manufactuer, so that should not be a problem either.
Feb 19, 2000 (2:32 am)
I FORGOT to tell you about your tires- if the dealer has balanced and aligned them and done the million other things they needlessly do to TRY and solve problems and they're still the same- then go to the tire dealer and have them check it out!
You need to read this ESPECIALLY if you have the Goodyear tires! http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Flats/7501/
The tires are warranteed by the TIRE company, NOT Chrysler!
Good luck. You'll need it.
#304 of 1409 Fastdriver and yama1yzf
Feb 19, 2000 (3:55 am)
Yama1: thank you for the information
Fastdriver: I just turned 47. Yes, I remember the Olds Rocket 350. If I recall correctly, in the 70s, there were minor differences in GM's 350s. Chevy had theirs, Buick, Olds and Pontiac had theirs. An Olds Rocket 350 was one hell of an engine, equal to or better than a Chevy 350 (except high performance models). All engines were only sold in their respective cars until 1977, when GM did the switcheroo trick, Chevy engines in Olds, Buick engines in Chevys, Pontiac engines in Buicks, etc. GM got into much hot water because they spent many years advertising and promoting, for example, the Rocket 350. So when people bought an Olds, and later found out they had a CHvey engine, but were charged a premium for the Rocket, lawsuits followed and GM lost. The logical answer for GM was no more engine advertising, and that infamous phrase "Your engine has been manufactured by one of GM's divisions."
BTW, 1977 was the same year that GM came out with their V6, where they thought they would save money by leaving off the hardened nut from the hardened bolt on the piston connecting rods. Instead, they screwed the hardened bolt into the upper half of the connecting rod, which is made of soft cast iron. Worst enginneering mistake since the Vega. And you folks want to know why I am suspicious of American cars?