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Lights and stuff by mfuller1
Dec 21, 2000 (10:32 am)
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I, too, was disappointed with the brightness and range of the driving lights on my Alero. The foglights work great to brighten things up, thus I always have them switched on. Some of the inadequacy of the stock lighting has to do with the reflector design, but I think some of it is attributable to the bulbs. Check out www.autobulbdepot.com for PIAA low and high beam driving lamps for the GA and Alero. They're kinda pricey, but the difference in brightness and range is incredible, and they're DOT legal unlike some other brand of high-output bulbs.
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Lights by ronmendel
Dec 21, 2000 (12:10 pm)
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My GA could use brighter driving lights, as well.
 
Are those PIAA bulbs as easy as unplugging the stock bulbs and just plugging in the new ones?
 
I looked under the hood and cannot even get to the bulbs. Can you tell me what I have to remove to get to the bulb sockets?
 
Thanks!
 
-Ron
(GA 2000)
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constructive criticism by midlifecrisis
Dec 21, 2000 (1:45 pm)
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That's very good whacko and spectre3. Go to a Grand Am forum and whine about how bad the car is. People here are either considering or have already purchased a Grand Am. Your posts are of no use.
 
Kingbob - I too contemplated the GP GT vs. the GA GT. the price differential is as you mentioned. However, the GA GT comes with more options in the GT model than the GP does. For instance, the GA GT has a power sunroof. This was a big requirement for me. So to get the GP GT with a sunroof, it was about $3K difference.
 
The GP is a bigger car with a bigger bulletproof 3.8 liter engine, but I like the GA interior better. Especially the seats. And the 3.4 liter GA engine hauls!
 
Either way you can't lose, it's just how much you want to spend.
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GP definitely quieter by heng
Dec 21, 2000 (8:34 pm)
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I have a 3.4 Alero and a 3.8 GP. The GP is larger by a bunch. Across the front doors the GP is 4 inches wider (I measured it). Rear leg room also much greater. Trunk is much larger.
 
Styling is up to you. I do call the Alero the mini GP because it has almost all the same features. Engine/transmission response of the 3.4 Alero is very similar to the 3.8 GP (awsome!). The Alero may get 1 or 2 mpg more than the GP at highway cruise. You definitely hear the 3.4 engine at highway cruise. The 3.8 cruises as if it weren't there.
 
You should drive them back to back, then decide.
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midlifecrisis by spectre3
Dec 22, 2000 (4:57 am)
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whine??
 
since when is it your place to determine where i can post and when??
 
I am a former ga owner and my comments reflect my direct experiences.
 
you on the other hand must claim an extra exemption on your tax return for being blind.
 
any poster considering a ga can & should read the whole ga thread and examine ALL comments good and bad, then decide whether to buy a ga.
 
I believe you perceive any negative comments about this auto a personal slam of some kind. grow up.
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Message test by lrymal
Dec 22, 2000 (6:08 am)
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Posted a message 12/21/2000, more about driving lights. It never showed. Regarding the "whine" messages. C'mon guys, take this stuff privately. Don't turn this list into a flame-infested group like so many other internet groups are. Please???
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Good Deal? by kingbob
Dec 22, 2000 (1:13 pm)
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How much over or under invoice should a savvy person pay for a new GP or GA? Chevy Malibu people quoted $100 over cost. But not to crazy about the looks of the Malibu, but does seem to be alot for your money. Any thoughts on how the Malibu stacks up against Grand Am?
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Good deal by ronmendel
Dec 22, 2000 (5:29 pm)
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I just bought a new 2000 GA for 500 under invoice plus a $2000 Pontiac rebate currently running. That worked out to $4500 below sticker. Since there were no changes from MY 2000 to 2001, I didn't mind buying a 2000 and saving big time.
 
Year-end is the very best time to buy a car and the GM dealers are hurting real badly right now. Go in and make a killer offer and walk out (leave your cell number) if they resist.
 
-Ron
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Proud GA Owner! by rpm9
Dec 22, 2000 (9:55 pm)
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I love my 00 Grand Am SE/V6 so much that when I finally have a child, he or she's first name will be Grand and the middle name will be Am. And I will move my family to Pontiac, Michigan. Happy Holidays everybody!
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by midlifecrisis
Dec 23, 2000 (7:18 pm)
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My "whining" comment was more directed towards whacko. His or her slam comments were uncalled for regarding Pontiacs and their owners in general, which is really of no use to anyone in a Grand Am discussion.
 
And Spectre3, the "problems" and "complaints" didn't scare me off, because I know to take everything posted on forums with a grain of salt. But thanks for the reminder, I do have to make an appointment to go see the eye doctor. When I get my eyes fixed, maybe I'll suddenly hate my Pontiac because it's so hideous and have to sell it immediately.
 
See - everyone can be sarcastic. Has that helped anybody on the forum? Doubt it.
 
Hey - tax time is just around the corner. I guess I better go figure out all my exemptions now.
 
Lyrmal - no flamefest intended. As a matter of fact, my original message was to try and quelch the "slam" type posts that were not constructive (pro or anti-Grand Am) in nature. Obviously it backfired. My apologies.
 
Ronmendel - You hit the nail on the head: Be willing to walk out of the dealer. As long as you stay on their salesfloor, they figure they've got you right where they want you. Make an offer and tell them to "take it or leave it". Make them the desperate ones. It works wonders.
 
Rpm9 - welcome to the family of Grand Am owners.
 
And to everyone else - thanks for all the useful posts that have helped me gather a great deal of information on purchasing and maintaining my car. Being informed is definitely the way to go!

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