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#342 of 2575 Grand am longevity by alhoutex Jun 24, 2000 (6:42 am)
JJ Woulfy...at 25 yrs of age, I have grown up around pontiac Grand Ams, from my friends sisters 87 grand am sedan, to my moms 1991 grand am which was my high school borrowed ride until I got my own car. In 1995, my parents bought my sister a 1993 grand am GT two door. Now, I own a 2000 Grand am GT 4 door, and an very happy with it. To my best recollection all except the 93 grand am were trouble free.The 93 had bad coolant troubles, and engine problems. As far as 97s/98s, I havent followed the cars history, but Ive heard an average number of complaints. Paint is excellent, unless you get black, which fades on the plastic surfaces. I would recommend a V6, the fours have never had good power, except for the quad 4 high output in the 91 GA. If you have any specific questions, Ill try to answer them.
#343 of 2575 2000 Grand Am GT1 by azurerain Jun 28, 2000 (6:56 am)
I am looking into possibly purchasing a 2000 Grand Am GT1, I was wondering if anyone has owned one yet. I've read through the message board here, and elsewhere and have seen good and bad about the older models, but I can't find much on the 2000. If you own one, do you like the car? any complaints?. My toyota was totaled in a wreck last week, so I am looking for a new, semi-sporty car. The Grand Am seems to give the most bang for the buck. Any comments appreciated. Thank You, Azure
#344 of 2575 My 1999 GT1 is very close to a 2000 by obiwan Jun 28, 2000 (4:57 pm)
Azure, I currently own a 1999 Grand Am GT1, which is very similar to the 2000. I have been very happy with my car overall. It has good acceleration in all reasonable conditions (from a stoplight, up a freeway on-ramp, passing on the highway) and it handles fine for every day driving with a few hard corners thrown in now and again. What it will not do is out-accelerate real performance cars. It'll beat the suburban assault vehicles and minivans off the line but a V8 camaro/mustang will leave you far behind. And even some of the "sport compact" cars will edge out the Grand Am in a 0-60 run by half a second or more. It will definitely out corner the grocery getters but won't handle the twisties like a Porche. To top it all off, it has a very comfortable ride for daily driving. If that's your definition of "semi-sporty" then the Grand Am is the car for you. I can fit 2 reasonable sized adults in my back seat for short to medium trips. When no one is in my back seat, I can fit my 191cm skis cross ways through the pass through in the trunk. Both of these you won't be able to do in a smaller "sport compact" car. Depending on my driving, I average over 20 MPG in mixed city/highway driving. (That you will be able to do in a compact car.) Considering that the sporty versions of the compact cars cost as much or more than the Grand Am, I'd say that it definitely gives you more bang for your buck. If you're not 100% sold on the Grand Am looks, take a look at the Oldsmobile Alero. It is virtually identical to the Grand Am once you get past the accessories and under the sheet metal. It has similar numbers for acceleration and cornering but the appearance is a little different and appeals to some people more than the lines of the Grand Am. HTH, Obiwan
#345 of 2575 2000 Grand Am GT1 by azurerain Jun 29, 2000 (4:01 am)
Obiwan,  Thank You for replying to my message. I love the way the Grand Am looks, and I haven't test driven it yet (soon). It would be perfect for me actually, I don't want a overly sporty car like the mustang. Although a V8 would be nice, but once you add all the goodies to that, the price is too high. That is mainly why I am looking into the grand am, I've looked at the Camero, mustang, all those other sporties, and I think I'll have to wait. I hate the way the Alero looks, to grandma-ish. It sounds like the GT1 would be a good buy. I was mainly concerned about paint chipping, road noise etc. that I have heard about=). I think my heart is pretty set on the 2000 GT1 though, now if I can haggle a dealer for a good price!. Thank You, Azure
#346 of 2575 insurance by midlifecrisis Jun 29, 2000 (4:14 pm)
Azure - another thing that is a bonus for the GT over a Mustang or other V8 is the insurance cost. My 4-door Grand Am GT is very reasonable to insure when compared to a sports car. I spent months comparing the Grand Am GT with other brands and models. The best "bang for the buck" is exactly what I got. The options, features and performance I got for the price I paid is phenomenal. And so far, the first 15,000 miles have been almost hassle free. Except for adjustmemts to the hood latch and door inserts, the car has had no troubles at all. And I get about 24 mpg with mixed driving. I may not outrun a Porsche, but I can beat many sporty cars and other vehicles that people paid a LOT more money for!
#347 of 2575 An added bonus by obiwan Jun 29, 2000 (4:44 pm)
Azure, I agree that the Mustang and Camaro would cost you more. Not only in initial cost but in insurance as well. But the added bonus with the Grand Am is that the back seat is usable by real people. I have tried out the back seats of both Mustangs and Camaros (and Firebirds too) and I have to say that it isn't much more than a small shelf to put things on. You can't really fit full sized adults in the back of one of those cars. One thing I would say is that you should take the Grand Am for a test drive before really getting excited about having one. There have been people who thought the Grand Am was a fancy sports car when it's really just a sporty mid-sized family car. Go out to a dealer and take a random GT for a spin just to get the feel of it. Then go home and sit on you impression for a while. Then go back and try out a different GT. Go home again. Then go try out some other cars in the class (including a Grand Am SE with the V6) to compare your experiences with. If you still like the GT1, go back and give it one last test drive on the day you are ready to buy. But, and this is the most important thing, don't get too enamored of a particular car on the lot. Remember that the Grand Am is produced in high quantity and there are many out there to choose from. Set the highest price you will pay before you go to buy and stick to it. If the dealer won't match your price, walk away. Remember that the end of the 2000 model year is coming up quickly. As the 2001 models start to arrive, you can get some good deals on the 2000 models, especially if you live in a large urban area with more than one dealer nearby. Good luck on your purchase, Obiwan
#348 of 2575 obiwan by yurakm Jun 29, 2000 (8:19 pm)
GM consider GrandAm to be a compact car, not a mid-size one. Even while it is build on the same platform as the Chevy Malibu, a mid-size car according the GM. http://www.gmbuypower.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+COM.gm.BuyPower.applications.entry.VehicleBrowseCriteria.VehicleBrowseCriteria?DefltModlYrNbr=2000
#349 of 2575 2000 GT by alhoutex Jun 30, 2000 (5:14 am)
Azure, I purchased my 2000 silvermist Grand Am GT with the solid value option package(chrome wheels, sunroof, cassette and cd, keyless entry). It stickers at 21,820, and an invoice of 20020, depending on what part of the country you are in, you should be able to get a GT for about 25-125 over invoice. The dealers should have alot in stock, due to the factory getting rid of the last 2000s, to make room for the next production year.I paid 200 over invoice in february, an off month on car deals. The cash back rebate puts this awesome car in most peoples financial reach. I love mine, and have no complaints, save a few minor warranty corrections. I topped it out at 125 mph on the local tollway, and it will fly! Smooth ride, great power, solid car. I wouldnt recommend anything else. Good Luck on you deal.
#350 of 2575 GRAND AM WOES by fuddleyp Jul 02, 2000 (5:26 am)
I RENTED A BRAND NEW GRAND AM 12-22-99 WITH ONLY 4 MILES ON IT. RIGHT OFF THE BAT I DIDN,T LIKE THE RED DASH LIGHTS AND THE STEREO WAS HOLLOW EVEN WITH THE CD PLAYER BUT THE WORST PART WAS THAT ON MILE 45 WITH THE CAR ON 40MPH CRUISE IT THREW A ROD!!! THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL I"LL EVER OWN A PONTIAC! I UNDERSTAND PONTIACS STILL HAVE ONE OF THE WORST SIDE IMPACT RATINGS AS WELL. GLAD IT WAS JUST A RENTAL!
#351 of 2575 Something's Fishy by midlifecrisis Jul 03, 2000 (7:11 pm)
That last post about a rental car sounds a little suspect. What are the chances of renting a car with 4 miles on it? Even my new car had about 200 miles on it when I bought it. I guess the rental cars are sold directly to the companies without test drives, but what are the odds you would get one without anybody else every driving it? And then throwing a rod at 45 miles? Something sounds rotten in Denmark if you ask me.

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