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Pontiac Grand Am, Sedan
Feb 20, 2003 (9:27 am)
Recent article talked about ABS. http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2003-02-13-safety-option_x.ht- - m .
Grand Am SE: antilock brakes/traction control $400
Honda Accord DX: ABS Std Traction Control N/A
Honda Accord LX 4cyl: ABS Std Traction N/A
Honda Accord LX V6 Auto: ABS & Traction Std $23500
There are whole threads here at Edmunds pleading with Pontiac to drop the "cladding" for looks. GM now has people in charge who agree.
How big was the rebate when your son bought his 1999? $0? $500? $750? I think most people would rather have $3000 then glove box locks.
#1605 of 2589 TO: Montanafan
Feb 20, 2003 (12:41 pm)
Don't be fooled by these rebates..... I take a 2003 Honda Accord LX anyday over GA. I have driven both cars.
I bought the GA for my son because he likes the car. To me, GA has a very gimmicky and confining interior, very flat supension, uncomfortable seats, and not a fun car to drive, at least not the SE model. I can not speak for the GT.
Also with any new car, try to pay attention to what is discontended. You are paying $400 more for ABS, you are not paying $400 less for not having it. Normally when you decontent the car, you lower the sticker price.
Rebates are kind of a joke. GM has had four price increases in 2003MY alone. Your $3000 rebate is not what you think it is. IF GA is worth $14K, then GM should price it that way.
By the way, I paid $4,800 for the 99GA with 93K miles just a little more than $3K rebate you get on the 03MY. It is in very good shape, and has the $14K GA look and the interior.
As I said 2-3 year old GM cars are excellent values for what you pay for them. NEW GM cars are different matter. Where can you find a 99 Accord with the condition of this 99 GA for $4800? You can't find any.
Please don't get me wrong. GM is building and selling a lot of GA's. It is not a bad car but in my opinion, it is no Honda Accord.
Feb 20, 2003 (1:30 pm)
Once again, bad news for John Public and good news for product liability attorneys.
I can already see the cycles forming, and all of them end with higher costs for consumers for everything from milk to car insurance with a net decrease in value.
Feb 21, 2003 (11:51 pm)
has anyone had any light ticking coming from there grand am,s 3.1 engine mine just started doing this couple days ago and i can,t figure out why it,s a 98 with 70000 miles i just recently bought it it has the usual gm piston slap but now it ticks oil is full and clean
Feb 22, 2003 (6:43 am)
One possible ticking noise cause my be the engine drive belt tensioner. This is a pulley the belt goes around that has a spring to keep the belt tight. Relatively inexpensive if it is it, and not a bad thing to replace to prevent a possible breakage which would cause the belt to fall off.
Feb 22, 2003 (6:47 pm)
I DON,T REALLY THINK IT,S THAT I HAD A 94 WITH THAT PROBLEM IT WAS ALMOST LIKE A SQUEALING SOUNDING THIS SEEMS TO BE COMING FROM THE ENGINE JUST STARTED 5 DAYS AGO ONLY HAD THE CAR 4 MONTHS
Feb 22, 2003 (9:47 pm)
i connecting rod to crankshaft bearing went out of my 93 3.3L v-6 am. I replaced it with another 3.3L from a 93 achieva. This engine had only 80k on it(compared to my 120) so it was a good buy for 350 bucks. Anyways, after installing it, i drove the car a bit and noticed it ran a little rough. the service engine soon light went on so i thought id check the trouble codes and see what was up. I got a knock sensor code. Now i know what the knock sensor is and what it does. But thwere in the world is it at and how do i replace it. All i should need to do is take the old one off my other engine and put it on the new one. any info on where its at, if i left a clip off or sumthing.....HELP
#1611 of 2589 Buying a '97 Grand Am with 2.4 liter
Feb 25, 2003 (7:23 pm)
I have a '97 Grand Am with 113,000 km. The car has been over all fairly reliable with the exception of the following:
- 3 water pumps before 100k
- Rack and pinion replaced at 40k
- Alternator replaced at 100k
- Brakes wear out way too early
As this car has a timing chain, the dealer has not been able to get the timing right. The knock sensor has been changed twice and the computer cannot compensate for the poor adjustment. I will have to live with the knocking. Fuel mileage is as bad as my 2002 Intrepid which is a 200 hp car.
I would strongly suggest getting the V6, the mileage is not much better and the 2.4 engine is poorly designed.My advice; keep shopping
#1612 of 2589 2005-2007 new GA engines
Feb 27, 2003 (10:03 am)
New Grand Am body style will arrive as 2005MY with start of production of July 2004 .
2005 only SE1 and GT with LX-9 3.5 V-6
2006 will add: SE with LE5 (HO 2.4L four), GTP with LZ8 (3.9L V-6 auto and 6 speed manual)
2007 new engine in SE1 and GT (LZ3 3.5 V-6) will replace LX-9 V-6.
New GA's will be built at Lake Orion plant. The current ones are built at Lansing North and South plants. It is possible that GM continues to build current GA with 2.2L engine as base SE model well into 2005.
Feb 27, 2003 (4:30 pm)
Would be nice to believe that the new Grand Ams are that close. But GM lately has been showing the Production Show Cars over a year in advance. The recent shows include the Chevrolet Equinox which dosen't enter production until next year. And I think the Chicago show had a Dawoo built Cheverolet that will come out next year. Unless there is a New York show debut in ?-April-?, I think it would be doubtful that July is start up. But we can hope. Thanks for the post.