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Volvo S40, Sedan
Oct 08, 1999 (8:45 pm)
Volvo is planning to replace the Volvo S40
for the year 2001. This is what is gathered at their "spy website".
The S40/V40 range is due to be replaced in 2001 with a car based on the new P1X platform. The current S40/V40 is built at NedCar in Born, the Netherlands, and shares its structure and factory with the Mitsubishi Carisma. The Ford purchase of Volvo is understood to have come too late to change the plans for the next S40/V40.
The next V40 will be called V50 because Volvo will start naming the sedans S and then an even number and the station wagons V and then an odd number.
Here is the website:
Just scroll down to -- Volvo Spy Pictures --
and click on Volvo S40/V40. You might wanna check out all the other future cars there too!
Oct 08, 1999 (10:03 pm)
S40/V40 Replaced by S40/V50.
S70/V70 Replaced by S60/V70.
S90/V90 Replaced by S80/V90.
* What they mean by replacing for the S40/V40 is changeing the interior and some other minor things including the name of the V40.
* This is the last year to get the S70(brick model). It will be replaced by the S60. The V70
will be redesigned.
* They have already replaced the S90 with the S80. The V90 will also be redesigned.
* SUV, that might be a while before it comes out.
#95 of 1807 test drive
Oct 10, 1999 (6:49 am)
S40 handled and braked adequately but the turbo lag was annoying. Engines revs before power develops. Compare this SAAB's 2.3 liter turbo in the 99 9-5 SE (170 Hp and 209 Ft Lbs of torque at 1800 Rpms. No contest since closeouts on loaded 9-5s were selling under invoice. Volvo arrogance and refusals to deal just means more sold SAABs. Steering on SAABs much better. Price difference: loaded 9-5 SE leather seats, ventilated seats, heated rear and front seats, dual climate control, 200 watt harmom kardon sterro etc, just $4000 more for SAAB. Why not buy a 9-3 before buying a S40. The 9-3s sre more fun to drive, offer more storage and SAAB will deal. Leases are great. New models have received rave reviews from press and owners.
Oct 10, 1999 (10:29 am)
Don't mean to say anything bad about them, but I have a relative in Sweden who works at a Saab factory (airplanes) and said he wouldn't be caught dead in one. Volvo is the way to go, they hold together and have higher resale value. All this coming from a Swede. Go figure.
Oct 11, 1999 (3:28 pm)
I've heard the same about Saab resale values, that they're relatively low compared to other cars in the class. What's up with that?
Oct 11, 1999 (6:37 pm)
They are owned (partially or all) by GM. Go figure.
#99 of 1807 Build quality
Oct 12, 1999 (2:37 am)
I assume that build quality is the issue here. After reading many car books and the other topics here at Edmunds, Saabs don't hold together to well. Also, they are very quirky. Someone mentioned that the ignition switch on the 9-3 is on the console between the two front seats?
Beyond that, I was told that if I was set on buying a Saab to stick to the turbo I4. It is pretty much the only thing left that isn't an Opel/GM component.
As for ownership, I think that GM owns 50% of Saab. I could be wrong. I personally believe that this wouldn't be a problem if they were using American components. Unfortunately, they utilize Opel. The division of GM that has brought us the Catera.
Personally, I want a luxury car that is going to hold together for a more than a decade. Mercedes and Volvo were at the top of that list.
#100 of 1807 Trying to find a Deal on S40
Oct 15, 1999 (3:32 am)
My wife and I have been trying to get a deal on a 2000 S40 and the sales force isn't willing to deal at all. They offered $500 off of the standard invoice and no more. The local dealer here in Dayton, Ohio, USA has free loaner car when we get our Volvo serviced with them, but besides that, it seems to be a take it or leave it. Plus, they say it might take a month or more to get it from order. This is my first new car in a while.... Are us new car buyers supposed to be treated like this Now?
Maybe I accidentally walked into the Ford Dealer.
Oct 15, 1999 (9:06 am)
There apparently is a edict from up high in Volvo not to sell these vehicles any lower priced than $500 below invoice. Salesman I spoke to suggested that it may cause more people to demand the S40.
If you want close to invoice and a trip included, I would suggest that you go Euro Delivery.
Oct 15, 1999 (3:58 pm)
Regarding post #100:L
onerobb, I'm not too surprised about the relative inflexibility in pricing. I've seen this from all of the premium European manufacturers over the past few years when they introduce a new model. Volvo did it with the S80 last year when there was an unwritten rule about significant discounts and the fact that they couldn't be issued for the first few months or a dealership would not get their stock replenished! Premium manufacturers want to preserve their brand equity and having to discount a new model upon introduction to the market wouldn't do it. My guess is that by December you will find more flexibility in pricing on the S40. In the meantime, you could always opt for Euro delivery if you are going to have to place a custom order anyway. Under this option you will save $1,500 of MSRP (you will pay invoice price) but will pay full MSRP for options. If you order before 12/15 you will get a free round-trip ticket and first night hotel charge thrown in on top of the standard program offerings (free shipping to dealership, marine insurance, etc.). I did this earlier this year for my S80 T6, saved a bundle, and had a great weekend in Sweden.
If I can answer any questions let me know.