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#542 of 1804 Playing catch-up by houndog

Apr 28, 2002 (4:43 pm)

Many of us love the TC, but it will never gain market share until FORD offers at least 300hp (even as a performance option). The Caddy has had 300hp for years, and will soon move up even higher - also will go to RWD soon. Unless the TC makes some substantial changes to the drivetrain, market share will continue to decline. If the Lincoln dealers did not have the LS models to sell, they would be in real trouble. The LS and Navigator have saved the dealers for now, but this has done nothing for the Town Car. The 2003 has some nice cosmetic changes, but the powertrain is still the same - BIG upgrade needed for 2004.

#543 of 1804 Hounddog: I agree with you and my question is by kinley

Apr 29, 2002 (11:02 am)

How much additional are we willing to pay for a 300 hp "Performance Option"? Considering it would replace the existing Single Overhead Camshaft, it should be a $250 additional option as the Mark VIII engine would meet the demand. Are you willing to pay more? if so, how much?

#544 of 1804 4.6 DOHC by jerrym3

Apr 29, 2002 (12:44 pm)

Lincoln should realize that this car is a LINCOLN, not a plain CV or GM. The motor should be different than the motor in those cars.
 
I'd hate to see the TC go the way of the Continental as buyers realize that they can buy the CV/GM and basically get the same car mechanically at a lot less cost..
 
I'd be willing to pay a few thousand more for a 2003 Lincoln "LSE" with a body colored grille (not completely), 300 HP DOHC engine, 3:55 rear, and body colored plate on the rear decklid.
 
I'd even push for the buckets and console. (Buyers purchasing Lincolns are probably in an age bracket where a full six passenger sedan is no longer needed.)
 
Call it the Lincoln LSE Touring Sedan, and make mine black!

#545 of 1804 Kinley response by houndog

Apr 29, 2002 (4:57 pm)

The TC should be able to do a complete performance upgrade for $2000 to $2500 - i.e. 300hp motor(Marauder), 3.55 rear end with posi, upgrade tires, Bilstien shocks, HD stabilizer bars, etc, etc. These type of upgrades cost almost nothing at the factory level. Ford will still make a nice profit on every one they sell. If they are really smart, go with the 5.4 tuned for max torque, and around 300 to 325hp. Stick with regular gas, or go to 89 octane max. If you want to be competitive, you have to raise the bar. The TC cannot always lag behind, time to step out in front.

#547 of 1804 jerry by audia8q

Apr 30, 2002 (5:52 pm)

I agree the car should be more of a stand out...but Everyone forgets that fleet dictates what the town car gets. Limo/Livery companies essentially dictate to Ford what will and wont be on the T/C
Until Lincoln decides that they want to retail the T/C to people and not Fleet, the car will not be a world class competator in the luxury segment.
The T/C is Certainly a nice car but with a rather limited retail market in its current form.
 
The Lincoln LS is proof they have the ability to build something that will compete with the best out there...I just wish the whole Lincoln Brand would move away from fleet and become a real luxury brand...
 
oh, btw. My friend who is a auto writer/radio personality called me today. He drove the new 2003 jaguar at the press intro yesterday. He was totally gushing positive things about the car.

#548 of 1804 TC by jerrym3

May 01, 2002 (5:45 am)

I agree that Lincoln can't forget the fleet market, but if Mercury can make a Marauder, it would probably take the same, or less, effort for Lincoln to make a TC LSE Touring Edition. If Mercury can do it for limited production (15,000 cars), why can't Lincoln?
 
Why direct the domestic luxury buyer that wants a little more performance or individuality towards Cadillac?
 
Which Jag was tested? The S V8 or the S R?

#549 of 1804 I believe the limo/livery crowd would want 300+ h.p. by kinley

May 01, 2002 (8:21 am)

to move their barges up and down the blvds.

#550 of 1804 Any info on 300hp TC? by xlegend

May 01, 2002 (11:15 am)

I have heard that Lincoln does intend to come out with a 300hp TC. I also heard that it will have a center console making it a 5 passenger car. Can anyone verify any of the above? The 2003 Town Car claims to have greater trunk space but when you read the specifications it is the same size as the 2002 Town Car which is 20.6 cubic ft. What gives?

#551 of 1804 xlegend by jerrym3

May 01, 2002 (12:33 pm)

All I can say about the trunk space is that putting the mini spare vertical in the right quarter panel "dead" space clears up the whole shelf where the spare used to reside. Maybe we're just getting more usable space.
 
Where did you hear about a 300hp/bucket seat TC?

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