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#1632 of 1806 2008 TC- The Last One?
Feb 24, 2008 (5:02 pm)
I noticed in the Ft. Worth paper Saturday that a Lincoln-Mercury dealer's (Manuel Lincoln Mercury Ft. Worth) ad showed a photo of a 2008 Town Car with a bubble next to it that said "Last Ones!". Do they know something we don't? Those of you with TCs ought to ask your dealer if the is the last year for the Town Car. It is not going to help resale value. By the way, the same ad said "Save $8,000 off MRSP" under the TC illustration.
#1633 of 1806 Re: MRSTRK [MRSTRK]
Feb 28, 2008 (7:27 pm)
I might be too late responding, but anyway, here goes. I just replaced a 1996 T/C Signature series. Had 163,500 miles on it. Only problems encountered in over 90,000 of driving it was a blown air bag, blown intake manifold, ( original was made of plastic ), and just had the ball joints replaced. ( originals were non greasable). No other problems encountered in 7 years of ownership. Highway milage averaged 25-27 mpg, 70 mph with A/C running. In town varied between 17 & 20 mpg. And, best of all is that air ride. Sorta like riding in a Greyhound. Can't beat it. Just bought an '03 Cartier with 60k on it. Contacted the original owner, who gave me the entire service history. No problems ever encountered with the '03. Hope it does as well as the '96
#1634 of 1806 Lincoln T/C Cartier
Feb 28, 2008 (7:33 pm)
Just purchased an '03 T/C Cartier. Can anyone give me a list of the additional equipment on a Cartier that isn't on a Signature, or Executive model? Formerly had a '96 T/C Signature Series with over 165k on it. Hope the '03 gives as good service as the '96 did.
#1635 of 1806 EDMUNDS REVIEW OF 2008 TOWN CAR
Feb 28, 2008 (9:56 pm)
I hope owners will read the Edmunds review of 2008 Lincoln Town Car. I was surprised at many of the statements and opinions given. I will state just one to get the discussion started, the average fuel economy I get in my 2005 T.C. is around 20 + city and around 29 highway. The Edmunds review is approximately 40% lower both city and highway. There were too many other statements and opinions cited for me to feel comfortable about the objectivity of the test drive.
To be sure T.C. is not a sports car but it handles a lot better than the review indicates. I am not going to state that I know i'm right about this difference about
T.C. but only ask other owners to read the Edmunds review under 2008 Lincoln Town Car and post your own driving experiences here. We do have a vested interest in that giving Town Car a reputation as stated in the review could well cause prospective buyers to go elsewhere and lower the cash and trade in value of our cars. My experience with my T.C. has been very good to this point and must take exception to much of what was said in the review. I hope other owners will take the time to post their actual experiences with T.C. here.
#1636 of 1806 Re: Lincoln T/C Cartier [gyrene40]
Feb 29, 2008 (10:57 am)
Sriver/Passenger 8 way power seats
Garage door opener
electronic mirrors'compass group
steering wheel with center horn and audio'temp control buttons
snoflake aluminum wheels
Alpine Audio System with Premium AF/FM stereo/cassette
In addition to Signature Series
Exclusive Premium leather seat trim
Heated front seats
16 inch Cartier chrome aluminum wheels
I apologize for having only the 1999 brochure from which the above was taken.
Suspect the 03 Cartier has the disc over the casette. Not much changes with Lincoln from year to year.
Anyway, see what you have that you didn't have after you were had.
#1637 of 1806 Re: Lincoln T/C Cartier [euphonium]
Feb 29, 2008 (4:25 pm)
thanks a bunch for the info. appreciate you taking the time to respond. the dealer couldn't give me any info on what actually came with the car. DUH!!! not my favorite dealer anyway. would not take any car of mine into their service dept. all they do is pad the work, and raise the price. guess most of their customers have enough money for the prices not to bother them, or they don't know what the price for work should be.
#1638 of 1806 Re: EDMUNDS REVIEW OF 2008 TOWN CAR [bremertong]
Feb 29, 2008 (8:01 pm)
I can't find a test of the 2008 -just the 2007. I don't pay much attention to road tests. I just drive the car myself. No car buff likes the Town Car. No magazines waste any time writing about anything other than a Challenger, the new Camero or the hopped up CTS or STS . I've had them all -from Mustangs to Jaguars and I am perfectly happy getting into and driving all day a comfortable, quiet big sedan that gets adequate gas mileage. My 2003 Cadillac Deville is just fine and the Town Car is even better with a better reliability record. I don't care in the least what some 25 year old car reviewer thinks about the Town Car. I wouldn't have thought much of it when I was 25 either. A negative report won't affect resale value because cars like these are heavily discounted out the door and worth virtually nothing in 5 years -$10k or less for a $50k MSRP.vehicle. I look at the CU reliability report and ignore the teeny bopper's opinions of the cars I like.
#1639 of 1806 ESC for the TC...ever?
Mar 01, 2008 (12:12 pm)
Is there ANY chance of the TC getting ESC, either standard or an option, anytime in future? It seems that this model's days are numbered, unfortunately. Wotta pity. ESC would serve it well, especially in the snow belt.
Anyone have an answer or clue?
Does the 2008 model have Ford's SYNC?
Hope to learn from someone in the know here.
Peace!<- AladdinSane<- -
#1640 of 1806 Re: Lincoln T/C Cartier [gyrene40]
Mar 06, 2008 (5:08 pm)
The Town Car has long been Lincoln's bedrock -- it is the brand's highest-volume model, and it boasts extremely high customer satisfaction and loyalty. Lincoln's goals for the redesigned 2003 model were to enhance the qualities that define Town Car -- room, ride, comfort and safety -- and instill newfound precision in the car's driving dynamics.
For 2003, Town Car will be offered in Cartier, Signature and Executive series, as well as long wheelbase Cartier L and Executive L models. Town Car is built in Wixom, Michigan.
Refinement, Comfort, Convenience
For 2003, the Town Car has more formal bodywork, including a redesigned hood, fenders and quarter panels. There are 11 exterior colours, as well as three two-tone colour combinations.
Up front, a new chromed Lincoln signature grille stands more upright and is flanked by quad-beam halogen headlamps that are 60 per cent brighter than last year's design and standard on Signature and Executive series. High intensity discharge headlamps and halogen fog lights are standard on Cartier models, and the stand up Lincoln star hood ornament returns.
The interior of the Town Car mixes traditional and contemporary elements to create a warm, inviting atmosphere. The soft touch instrument panel and doors are subtly grained and available in four palettes: a two-tone Dark Stone and Medium Light Stone, a Medium Dark Parchment and Light Parchment combination, Espresso and Medium Light Stone, or monochromatic black. The interior volume of the Town Car is unchanged at 3,763.3 litres (132.9 cubic feet), but a 38.1 mm (1.5 inch) increase in front seat travel and a host of other design changes to the seats, instrument panel and door trim panels improve overall comfort and stowage space.
The overall utility of Town Car's best in class 594.7-litre (21-cubic foot) trunk is significantly improved:
* The relocation of the mini-spare tire to the right hand wheelwell has freed up a large parcel shelf behind the rear seat backs.
* On Cartier models, the deep well in the centre of the trunk is now fitted with a removable covered bin ideal for stowing grocery bags, a first aid kit and other items. A new trunk organizer is optional on other models.
* The decklid opening is 198 mm (7.8 inches) wider and the liftover height is slightly lower.
A power trunk pull down, which securely latches the trunk with minimal effort, is standard on all Town Cars. Cartier models are fitted with a convenient full power trunk lid that can be opened or closed using the key fob or key pad.
The Cartier L and Executive L models, which ride on a 152 mm (6 inch) longer wheelbase than standard Town Cars, boast more rear seat legroom than any regular production car or truck on the road today a total of 1,193.8 mm (47 inches).
A rear seat amenities package is standard on both the Cartier L and Executive L. The package offers an even more comprehensive array of comfort and convenience features, including additional audio and climate controls mounted in the armrest, two additional powerpoints, an ashtray and cigar lighter in each door, a control to adjust the fore and aft position of the front passenger seat and heated rear seats.
The Town Car's front frame rails are now fully boxed sections of hydroformed steel. The new rails are filled with structural foam in key locations to help control the dissipation of crash energy through the frame for improved offset crash performance. The frame's torsional rigidity overall has been increased by 24 per cent, and its resistance to vertical bending has been improved by 20 per cent.
New Steering and Front Suspension
The new frame allowed Lincoln engineers to make major changes to the independent short-and-long arm front suspension to improve ride quality. They also replaced the older model's recirculating-ball steering gear with a new rack-and-pinion system that offers greater precision, less friction and weighs 10.2 kilograms (22.5 pounds) less. The new steering rack is a variable ratio design. A new speed sensitive, variable assist power steering control module complements the new rack.
The front suspension's upper and lower control arms are a new, more robust design, and the lower arm is now made of aluminum. Ride motions are controlled by steel coil springs and monotube dampers. Additionally, a new front stabilizer bar with "grippy" bushings helps improve steering centre feel and reduce lateral compliance.
Revised Rear Suspension
The Town Car's live axle rear suspension is located by upper and lower control arms and a lateral Watt's linkage. The rear monotube dampers are mounted farther outboard than the previous design to better manage the unsprung mass of the axle and reduce the transmission of road impacts into the car's structure.
This design change, coupled with a 14 mm increase in track width, is designed to keep the rear of the vehicle firmly planted during cornering on rough roads or washboard surfaces. A rear stabilizer bar is now fitted to all Town Cars. Load levelling air springs maintain a constant ride height regardless of vehicle load.
More Powerful Brakes
All 2003 Lincoln Town Cars are fitted with a four-wheel anti-lock disc brake system and a new dual-rate brake booster that provides additional assist in emergency situations. Electronic brake force distribution (EBD) is used to dynamically proportion braking forces. EBD effectively raises the threshold for ABS engagement by optimizing front-to-rear brake bias.
Twin-piston calipers that are 16 per cent stiffer than the previous design grip the Town Car's 305 mm vented front rotors. Stiff rotors are less susceptible to brake roughness. The rear brakes use 295 mm vented rotors and single piston calipers.
More Power, More Refinement
For 2003, all Lincoln Town Car models are powered by a 4.6-litre, single-overhead cam V-8 engine with two valves per cylinder and dual exhaust that produces 239 horsepower at 4,900 rpm and 287 foot-pounds of torque at 4,100 rpm. This is an increase of 19 horsepower and 22 foot- pounds of torque.
The Town Car's four-speed automatic transmission has been recalibrated to increase the speed of downshifts by 0.2 seconds to 0.3 seconds. The rear axle ratio is 3.27:1. All-speed traction control, which uses the ABS system and throttle intervention to manage wheel spin, is standard on all models.
Numerous changes were made to this proven powertrain to improve its refinement by reducing noise, vibration and harshness. Other powertrain improvements include a 20 per cent increase in engine oil capacity and a new returnless fuel delivery system for reduced emissions. Highway economy is improved by two miles per gallon to 9.4L/100km (25 mpg); fuel economy in city driving is unchanged at 13.8L/100km (17 mpg). Fuel capacity is 72 litres (15.8 Imperial gallons).
In addition to the powertrain NVH actions, the team made several significant changes to the Town Car's bo
#1641 of 1806 Re: Lincoln T/C Cartier [brhalltx]
Mar 07, 2008 (7:52 am)
Many thanks for all the great info on the '03 Town Car. It is much appreciated. We're getting accustomed to the differences between the '03 and the '96 we've been driving for over 7 years, and 100k miles. If th '03 gives the same reliability, and performance as the '96, I'll be more than happy. Thanks again.