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Lincoln Town Car, Heating / Cooling, Sedan
May 21, 2004 (10:24 am)
Can't argue with that logic. I think the 4.6 is a good engine but like you say it is a ford engine used in many applications and doesn't produce the power of the 4.6 caddie engine. The 2003 and 04 towncars have dual exhausts which is why they produce 239 hp instead of the 210 for the 2002.The sound from the exhausts are quiet which indicates they are still restricted from maximum power.It would be great to have a lincoln only engine in the town car,but economics probaly will prevent that.
May 21, 2004 (3:20 pm)
I apologize for the multiple posts. For some reason my message just would not post and I resent it several times. Sorry for taking up web space.
#1073 of 1806 ehardison
May 21, 2004 (3:24 pm)
It's okay - we had some server trouble earlier and what happened to you happened to lots of folks. I'll delete the duplicates.
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#1074 of 1806 Ok, Ok, You Win!
May 24, 2004 (9:40 am)
Up the HP and absolutely give me back the old glove-leather pillow seats, but leave the suspension and exhaust alone. TC's are all about an American smooth ride; and an engineered throaty exhaust tone would be cheesy (no, I never have been very diplomatic). Remember the discussion string from six months ago about those goofy chrome coffee cans sticking out of the backs of all those otherwise stock Civics? Same difference.
Regarding a HP boost, if there are performance minded TC buyers out there (how old are Baby-Boomers nowadays, anyway?), the magic number will be 300.
May 24, 2004 (4:12 pm)
I'm not sure I'd call it "performance minded" Town Car buyers..... as much as it is "premium minded" buyers. Because, other than the looks, the current Town Car isn't as luxurious as some Grand Marquis models presently. Put a premium engine in it, and you'd have a reason to charge so much more for it. But again, the Town Car isn't really made for the public anymore - the car is made for fleets. And fleets don't care.
May 24, 2004 (4:17 pm)
but I'm not quite with you on the exhaust. I'm well aware that there are a lot of buyers who like it quiet (Dad comes to mind), so I agree that the standard exhaust should be quiet. However, I also know that there is a certain portion of the population whose opinion of a vehicle can change dramatically for the better when they hear a deep rumble from the exhaust. I think an optional "performance" exhaust system might attract more younger buyers and assist with a continuing interest in the model.
Back to the leather: I went to an auto show a few months ago and took a good look at the Panther offerings. The leather was hard and just didn't seem very luxurious. I don't know what Lincoln leather was like a long time ago, but my father has had a series of Cadillacs from the 1980 through 91 model years. The 80 had MUCH nicer leather than his 89 and 91 models.
For the record, I still prefer cloth.
#1077 of 1806 Noise & leather
May 24, 2004 (4:22 pm)
Well, I can tell ya, the leather in my Navigator is soft and plush, so I don't know what gives in the Town Car either.
Back in 2000, they made a Touring Edition, that had twice pipes (with nice exhaust note) and about 25 more hp as a result, special wheels and some trim differences. But it didn't sell well, and I think that gave Lincoln the impression that "Dad" didn't give a flip about performance in the Townie, so why bother. And frankly, they are probably right! I'm no doubt, the exception. But for me the LS is too small. It has all the performance I want, in too small a package.
#1078 of 1806 love my/03/tc/
May 31, 2004 (4:04 pm)
i leased a new tc,in aug/03/for 3 yrs & at a staggering price of 450.00 per mo,plus i traded my beautiful 99 marquis,with only 19,280 miles(what a fool)the marquis was selling for 8500.00 plus my payments adds up to 24280.00,plus if i purchase the car ,after (3)yrs,i can buy for 16900.00 not counting sales tax,so thats well over 40,000.00 when they ar selling lacally for 2999.00new(no loaded)so the moral of this story is ,simply ,dont let the looks of a car sweep you off ur/feet & ur/walet.ps; the car rides & handles like a dream,however ,i'm only getting 19.2mpg,but they say ,thats because i have only 5712.00 miles,i would appreciate ur/thought & advice""cap""
Jun 01, 2004 (3:26 pm)
I don't know what you're complaining about! I pay $750/month for my 03 Navigator, and get 12.5 MPG! As much as I love the truck, I'm considering a sedan next time just because of the gas. Sounds like your deal was fair to me. Interest for financing the car adds to the price, you know. It is a $40,000 car.
Jun 01, 2004 (4:54 pm)
I just returned from a 1100 mile trip in my 2003 town car and averaged abou 24mpg. That 19mpg sounds about right for combination driving. I think that is good mileage for a heavy car with a V8 engine. I haven't seen a new town car for less than 33,000 here but your lease sounds pretty good,it seems you did not get a good price for your Marquis with that low mileage. Well,can't change the past ,just enjoy the present.