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#72 of 16377 Peter by rubicon52 Feb 22, 2001 (3:14 pm)
I am also not a car dealer, but have owned 6 Toyotas over 15 years. If you're looking for a reliable car for the 4 years you're in school, I think you're on the right track in getting a 2 year old Corolla or Camry. Both are extremely reliable cars. The drive train warranty should last almost the entire time you're in school so the expensive stuff is covered. Unless the car has been abused by the original owner or you're unlucky, you are unlikely to have big problems in during the first 6 years of the car's life. I typically keep my Toyotas 5-8 years and my repair costs have been minimal. Also, Toyota has been making Camrys and Corollas for a long time so they might be more reliable than an Echo.
#73 of 16377 shaq... by isellhondas Feb 23, 2001 (10:24 am)
Yes I still sell Hondas. You know as much as I do about the 2002 CRV's. Honda is always pretty tight lipped. I'm in Washington State.
#74 of 16377 isellhondas by shaq2kobe Feb 23, 2001 (10:37 am)
Thanx        The anticipation is killing me. If it is what everybody is expecting, I'll be buying as soon as it is released. If not I'll be in search for a 2000 white se.........
#75 of 16377 Well... by isellhondas Feb 24, 2001 (2:04 pm)
I'm sure it will please the masses. Still there will be people who will ask..." Why did they screw it up"?   We sure love our 2000 SE !
#76 of 16377 Car spotting by kulshan Feb 25, 2001 (8:09 pm)
I've been reading these forums for a while, and I'm hoping that the car salesmen that post here can answer a question for me. The salesmen I see here seem respectable and are embarrassed by some of the seemingly shady business practices some dealers and salesmen follow.   I'm curious about car spotting - that is, letting a customer drive off the lot with a car only to call them a few days later and ask for a few thousand dollars more because the financing fell through.   How often does this actually happen? And in what situations does it happen? What is the business manager checking when the application is run? What kind of quotes or offers is he getting on his computer screen? And what can change an approval to a demand for a few thousand dollars more?   Thanks in advance.
#77 of 16377 Car Spotting by afk_x Feb 25, 2001 (10:43 pm)
We don't do it EVER on purpose. In the year and a half that I have been at our store we have had it happen only once.   The Toyota dealer across the street does it on a regular basis.
#78 of 16377 I don't do it either by isellpotiac Feb 26, 2001 (6:40 am)
But it is designed to stop a customer from shopping. A competitor does it all the time and i have heard horror stories. If finance is not what the F&I guy guesses than the payment goes up.
#79 of 16377 Never heard of the term... by isellhondas Feb 26, 2001 (7:21 am)
Our store is squeaky clean in every respect. We make SURE the person is qualified before rolling a car. In almost six years I can't remember a customer having to bring a car back.   sounds like dirty business to me.
#80 of 16377 And of course, by agt_cooper Feb 26, 2001 (7:31 am)
the easy way for the car buyer to avoid this problem is to obtain pre-approved financing prior to visiting the dealership.   However, the flip-side is that many people who get caught in this situation probably shouldn't be buying a new car anyway, based on their financial situation...but it's the American way -- buy buy buy!!!

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