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#16351 of 16377 Another SUV question... by golic Feb 10, 2006 (12:24 pm)
Gentlemen thank you for the SUV suggestions, (sequioa, lr3) but, I think I am too practical for that type of vehicle and to be honest, I "need" to keep the lease payment in the $500 range.   If it weren't for the fact that my recent move did not land me within 5 miles of my office, I would avoid the SUV entirely. Don't get me wrong, I think they are a fun car to drive and pehpaps a bit more practical in Chicago winters (although, I do enjoy watching to some extent how many I see in the ditch during a snowfall when the SUV driver thinks they are invinceable)   I would appreciate your insisghts suggestions, on a vehicle that will accomomadate my 4 children ranging from 1-6 years of age. This would not be the primary family car, but the back up car- ie pick them up after wife dropped them off, etc.   I would like to stay south of 35K, what are your thoughts? Replies to this message: backy (Feb 10, 2006 12:33 pm) carlisimo (Feb 10, 2006 12:57 pm)
#16352 of 16377 Re: names [mazda6iguy] by kdhspyder Feb 10, 2006 (12:25 pm)
Replying to: mazda6iguy (Feb 10, 2006 11:47 am) There is a very fine line between letting a new arrival get out look around and begin to 'shop' and the over-agressive 'Hi, I'm ____' shake hands and pull'em out through the drivers window.   I think, others chime in, 30 sec's is an appropriate time or about the time it takes to lock the car and look around.   Beyond that there is a 'disrespect' factor that has to be considered. 'What aren't I good enough to warrant someone to come over and at least introduce themselves? Am I invisible?' There are a lot of people who feel insulted in this way especially if they are new to this particular store. How do you know? You dont.   I look at it this way, If a visitor came into my house to look at it they should at least be greeted. It's no different. Replies to this message: dino001 (Feb 10, 2006 12:49 pm) bdr127 (Feb 10, 2006 3:38 pm) pat (Feb 10, 2006 4:11 pm) and 1 more...
#16353 of 16377 Re: Do You Prejudge A Prospect? [martian] by golic Feb 10, 2006 (12:26 pm)
Replying to: martian (Feb 10, 2006 12:21 pm) My guess is there are a heck-of-a-lot more people in this world who carry themselves on that they have more money than they do, than there are eccenttic higher incomers walking around like they are homeless (who remembers when we called these people bums and hobos).
#16354 of 16377 Re: Discount on 2005 model [d_goes] by qbrozen Feb 10, 2006 (12:31 pm)
Replying to: d_goes (Feb 10, 2006 11:48 am) well.... I think this might come down to a personal "what do you feel its worth" thing ... but if I've got 2 ways of going about it for you.   First, since there is $3k back on an '06, I'd take that buy price (invoice minus $3k) of a comparable '06 and knock off another $2500 for the '05 (only because this is the arbitrary number I've decided on ... if i was looking at 2 used Caravan SXTs 3 years from now, both with identical miles, I'd pay $2500 less for the one that is a year older).   The other route is to find out what ultra-low-mile '05 Caravan SXTs are going for at auction through the Real-World Trade-In Values board. Then add maybe $500 to that as my first offer ... and maybe stretch up to $2k over auction value. Otherwise, its just not worth it, in my opinion.
#16355 of 16377 Re: Another SUV question... [golic] by backy Feb 10, 2006 (12:33 pm)
Replying to: golic (Feb 10, 2006 12:24 pm) How about the RAV4--starts at just over $20k and is available with seating for 7. If you can wait a few months, the all-new Santa Fe will be out in the same price range and can also seat 7.
#16356 of 16377 Re: names [mazda6iguy] by mackabee Feb 10, 2006 (12:45 pm)
Replying to: mazda6iguy (Feb 10, 2006 11:47 am) And I can respect that. I work at a dealership that now employs upwards of 40-50 people and has a revolving door in the front entrance. I made a joke about it when the building was first built that the door was going to be used mainly by salespeople coming and going. This past Saturday and older couple driving a 2002 Avalon with our dealership logo pulled in. They weren't even out of their car and one of the newbies was already on top of them. I could see they were upset and even told the salesman to leave them alone and give them some space. They looked at a new Avalon that was on the porch and then walked into the showroom. I glanced inside and the gentleman motioned me to come in. He asked me if I could help them as they were not impressed by the attitude and aggresiveness of the new salesperson that had come up to them. I gladly showed them and Avalon, answered their questions and concerns. I asked who they had bought their previous car from and it was a gentleman that is now at one of our other locations (Not a Toyota store). They also cut to the chase and told me they would be buying a car today and wanted my very best price. I asked them what other cars they would be considering and they mentioned the Lexus es and the BMW 3 series. I informed them about the Lexus redesign coming up and offered to walk them next door to our BMW store and pair them up with one of my partners. After they came back from the test drive I had a proposal for them on a 2006 Limited Avalon then walked them over to our BMW store. My partner Mike was tied up at the time so they decided to stop by later in the day. As the day wore on I called them to find out if they had made a decision but did not get a return phone call. Monday morning I called again and this time the husband call me back. He had decided to go with the BMW since they already had an Avalon and he wanted to try something new. He complimented me on the way I handled the situation and also praised Mike on his performance. He made a comment to the effect that Mike and I should take the newbie and "train" him on the proper way to interact with customers. Later in the day Mike came over and thanked me and promised to send some business over my way. Which he will. I have this kind of relationship with other salespeople in our several franchises so I never have to worry about leaving my store on a busy Saturday to go look at a Honda, or Hyundai, or any of the other makes we sell as I know my partners at those stores will reciprocate.                                         Mackabee
#16357 of 16377 Re: names [kdhspyder] by dino001 Feb 10, 2006 (12:49 pm)
Replying to: kdhspyder (Feb 10, 2006 12:25 pm) Good point, Spyder. When I had no money and wasn't very sure of myself, I ran away from a salesmen and wanted to be "left alone". When I got some money, I still wasn't very sure, so I liked to be left alone for longer.   Today, I have a bit more money than before (nothing big, but enough), I know I have an excellent credit and I'm not afraid. The other day I wanted to take a look at a Volvo V50 and went on Saturday morning to a local store. Since I entered through service and parked there, the salesguys did not see my car coming in - I just showed up on the parking lot. I caught myself getting annoyed when nobody came to me - I think I looked too young or something, so they decided I wasn't worth the trip outside. How do I know? Usually, when I drive to the front door with my WRX, I get a proper greeting. And yes, I am one of those "just looking what is in the market" guys with test drives way ahead of the possible purchase (don't do it too often, though - three-four times a year, tops ).   Point is - the more money one have, the better they treat themselves, the less "afraid" they are of the salesguys. I really don't get those 750Li people in Rover's store. The only possible explanation is is they were windowshopping and then they realized it and got ashamed or something - got to go... Replies to this message: bdr127 (Feb 10, 2006 3:38 pm) pat (Feb 10, 2006 4:11 pm) kdhspyder (Feb 10, 2006 5:02 pm)
#16358 of 16377 Re: Another SUV question... [golic] by carlisimo Feb 10, 2006 (12:57 pm)
Replying to: golic (Feb 10, 2006 12:24 pm) Golic, I think it's gonna have to be a Minivan, an SUV (Rav4 is the smallest with 3 rows, I think), or a Mazda5.
#16359 of 16377 Re: Do You Prejudge A Prospect? [martian] by snakeweasel Feb 10, 2006 (12:59 pm)
Replying to: martian (Feb 10, 2006 12:21 pm) Suppose a dirty, almost homeless-looking gent walks in..and wants to check out an expensive car?   Remember the alternate reality where George Bailey never existed in "Its a Wonderful Life"? Remember at the bar where we see the druggist? I once worked in at a company where the owner looked at acted just like him. Yet he was loaded.
#16360 of 16377 civic si question by sigt1 Feb 10, 2006 (1:14 pm)
is civic si invoice true dealer price paid or is it dealer price plus hold backs Replies to this message: bigdveedubgirl (Feb 10, 2006 1:18 pm)

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