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Re: I'm sure... [audia8q] by guss
Jan 30, 2006 (8:26 am)

Replying to: audia8q (Jan 30, 2006 8:14 am)

Toyota has the highest brand loyalty at 55%
 
I would say that is better than 50/50 he is buying another Highlander, or at least a Toyota.
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Re: I'm sure... [qbrozen] by kyfdx HOST
Jan 30, 2006 (8:29 am)

Replying to: qbrozen (Jan 30, 2006 8:18 am)

We are alike... but, not like most other people, I don't think...
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Re: I'm sure... [kyfdx] by nwalbert
Jan 30, 2006 (10:35 am)

Replying to: kyfdx (Jan 30, 2006 7:51 am)

Speaking of loyalty. How likely are dealerships to help you roll into a new lease for the same vehicle early?
 
Ie: I have a 2005 Acura TSX on a 48 month lease, and I am starting to think I would like some of new features present in the 2006 model. I am not thinking about swapping yet, but I know that I probably won't want to wait until the 48 months are up. Will I be punished, or if I stay loyal is the dealer happy to get me into something new?
 
Note: I will most certainly be well under on my km's allowance.
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Buying the same car twice by jaserb
Jan 30, 2006 (10:54 am)
I'm on Mathias' side here. LOTS of non-car people buy the same type of car over and over. My aunt bought a 2005 PT Cruiser to replace her 2001. Her main reason was because there weren't any recalls or TSBs on the 2005s, so she thought it wouldn't be as unreliable as her 2001 was. Great logic, huh? My extended family has had "runs" of different cars over the years - there was a Prizm phase, a Caravan phase, a Civic phase (the old ones), an Escort phase, and the current unfortunate PT Cruiser phase.
 
If I were the salesguy in question I'd just respond with something like "Well, if you like the new one we've always got people looking for good clean used Highlanders. I'm sure we can get you into the new one for a great price, and Toyotas hold their value so well it probably won't cost you much at all to do the swap."
 
-Jason
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Re: I'm sure... [qbrozen] by kdhspyder
Jan 30, 2006 (11:23 am)

Replying to: qbrozen (Jan 30, 2006 7:36 am)

My case: 4 basic 4c Camry's in a row from 1989 to 2005.
 
Avalon owners are like Buick owners in more ways than one including going from Avy to Avy to Avy.
 
I have 5 clients on either their 2nd or 3rd Prius' in 4 years.
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Re: I'm sure... [nwalbert] by kdhspyder
Jan 30, 2006 (11:30 am)

Replying to: nwalbert (Jan 30, 2006 10:35 am)

This is very very difficult because the dealership has nothing to due with your rental agreement with the finance company. You've agreed to rent the TSX for 48 months.
 
In most cases it's very hard to get out of a lease in the first year. It can be done certainly. The specific condition, mileage and market value of your TSX right now is of utmost importance.
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Re: Buying the same car twice [jaserb] by jipster
Jan 30, 2006 (11:33 am)

Replying to: jaserb (Jan 30, 2006 10:54 am)

Agreed...anytime someone is on the lot, that is a potential sale. But, at the same time doesn't a good salesman want to play the percentages? If there is no one on the lot...then sure...answer questions, or take someone for a test drive.
 
But, if it is a bit busy (or you are a young or struggling salesman)you probably won't want to risk taking the guy, who says he isn't interested in buying but just wants to check out the horsepower, out for a test drive.
Most salesmen probably question whether they will still be in the business long enough to see the return or repeat customer. So, I can see why salesman would not want to "waste their time" with someone they see as low potential. They're probably thinking, " My gas & electric bill and car insurance is due next week, little Johnny is needing braces...and this guy doesn't want to buy...he just wants to compare horsepower."
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Re: Buying the same car twice [jipster] by kdhspyder
Jan 30, 2006 (11:43 am)

Replying to: jipster (Jan 30, 2006 11:33 am)

Most salesmen probably question whether they will still be in the business long enough to see the return or repeat customer. So, I can see why salesman would not want to "waste their time" with someone they see as low potential. They're probably thinking, " My gas & electric bill and car insurance is due next week, little Johnny is needing braces...and this guy doesn't want to buy...he just wants to compare horsepower."
 
This is sooo very true for the largest percentage of salespeople in the auto industry. Not for the 'stayers' but for the greenpeas and hangers-on. Along this line, saturday is Sales Day and it's just so many hours long.
 
Can you imagine the feeling when someone comes in and says 'Im not sure what I want I'd like to drive 4 different vehicles today!' ... on a Saturday?????
 
One wiseassed guy who didnt last long looked at a lady and said, 'Ma'am, Saturday is Sales Day, Tuesday is Test Drive Day, Wednesday is Paperwork Day, Thursday is my Day Off. Friday is Prepare for Saturday Day'. Now when did you want to come back?' But in fact he was not far off.
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Re: I'm sure... [nwalbert] by zodiac2004
Jan 30, 2006 (11:51 am)

Replying to: nwalbert (Jan 30, 2006 10:35 am)

I would think 3 years into a 48-month 0-down lease of a TSX, if you are under allowed miles and condition / maintenance is upto snuff, you'll be in a 0-equity situation.
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Re: I'm sure... [audia8q] by zodiac2004
Jan 30, 2006 (11:57 am)

Replying to: audia8q (Jan 30, 2006 8:14 am)

Are Toyota/Lexus and Honda/Acura considered same manufacturer.
 
Anyway a more pertinent number would be
How many of current Honda/Acura owners are likely to buy a Honda/Acura/Toyota/Lexus next.
And how many Toyota/Lexus owners are likely to do the same.
 
I'll be very surprised if that number is less than 80%.

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