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Re: Why Tax Discussion? [jlawrence01] by jaserb
Jan 24, 2006 (11:23 am)

Replying to: jlawrence01 (Jan 24, 2006 11:04 am)

"I do know that most Illinois residents would not accept the level of education that you get from the very underfunded Utah public schools."
 
Ouch. I got an excellent education in an underfunded Utah public school, including 6 AP classes completed in high school. Not sure why you would take that potshot. Keep in mind that Utah has the highest birth rate in the US, which directly affects the per pupil spending.
 
My only direct experience with Chicago is with the pizza, which is outstanding. Unless you have direct experience with Utah public schools kindly keep your opinions to yourself. What this has to do with cars I have no idea, so I expect the hosts to bring the hammer down shortly.
 
-Jason
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While everyone's talkin about Utah by catam
Jan 24, 2006 (2:08 pm)
Since I live in Utah and am looking to lease, does anyone know specifically what the tax laws are with leasing.
I am looking to trade in my car, but I would only likely do that to receive the tax credit of my trade in value to decrease the taxes on my leased vehicle.
 
BTW, I was also educated in Utah, but I am not naive enough to believe that spending $1000 less per pupil provides the same quality of education. Exceptional students will do well under most any system, its the one's who struggle to keep up that suffer when you don't spend a little money to help them out.
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Re: Just to clarify on taxes [catam] by hansienna
Jan 24, 2006 (8:44 pm)

Replying to: catam (Jan 21, 2006 11:05 pm)

I was told by a reliable salesman at Doug Smith Chrysler-Jeep-Dodge that sales tax is paid on only the difference between trade in value and price of the new vehicle. The sales tax varies slightly depending on the county of purchase.
     With a lease, the sales tax is paid each month with the payment on the amount of the payment.
     Utah became more greedy and now charges sales tax on dealer documentary fee. It is printed on the UADA form 1088 "Motor Vehicle Contract of Sale".
     Be very careful when you read the paperwork.
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Re: Why Tax Discussion? [jaserb] by kirstie_h HOST
Jan 25, 2006 (7:35 am)

Replying to: jaserb (Jan 24, 2006 11:23 am)

Erm... yeah. Hammer firmly pounded.
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Re: Why Tax Discussion? [kirstie_h] by british_rover
Jan 25, 2006 (8:40 am)

Replying to: kirstie_h (Jan 25, 2006 7:35 am)

We were waiting.
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Re: In & out, 3-way, etc. [squirreljam] by bigdveedubgirl
Jan 25, 2006 (12:49 pm)

Replying to: squirreljam (Jan 23, 2006 12:41 pm)

I always get in the tail end of these discussions.....
 
Really as you can see with all the confusion and differences of opinion I would just refinance through Nissan and be done with it. To bring up something nobody has mention is Intrest rate of the re-finance. Some banks with give a special rate if you finance the residual much better than what prime is now.
 
As for your presumptous scenario, If the dealer is going to sell your car or certify it be sold, most dealers need to have 2500 at the minimum margin before those expenses can be incurred. For example, just the certificate, not the certification process for Audi is $900-$1500 depending on the car.
 
As for doing the in-and-out regardless of what state and what tax laws are. Dealers are really WIIFM. (whats in it for me) They are not going to do do an in and out to help you get a tax break.
 
Bottom line turn the car in and lease a new one. You are causing way to much headache to save or make a grand.
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Dealer won't allow a test drive by sashajo
Jan 27, 2006 (10:45 am)
Nope - not for a high cost car, either. I'm interested in the new Pontiac Solstice and two different dealers (not owned by the same parent organizations) said that no one is allowed to test drive the car. I suggested to both that they prequalify me. No dice. I make very good money and have very little debt. Heck - I could drop $25K on the desk and walk out with the title. Nada. Any dealer out there able to answer on this? We're not talking a car that costs $200K. Thanks!
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Re: Dealer won't allow a test drive [sashajo] by bdr127
Jan 27, 2006 (10:56 am)

Replying to: sashajo (Jan 27, 2006 10:45 am)

They've probably had a ton of "strokers" come in for a job ride.... Not to say that is your intent, and also not to say that their policy is justified; but I think that, at least, is their reasoning.
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Re: Dealer won't allow a test drive [bdr127] by sashajo
Jan 27, 2006 (11:06 am)

Replying to: bdr127 (Jan 27, 2006 10:56 am)

I don't doubt it. Here's part of the email between me and the dealer...
...The Solstice is a special production vehicle and due to its limited production we are not allowing the vehicles to be test driven. If you like you are more than welcome to stop by and take a look at one and or purchase it....
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Re: Dealer won't allow a test drive [sashajo] by audia8q
Jan 27, 2006 (11:36 am)

Replying to: sashajo (Jan 27, 2006 11:06 am)

How goofy....It's a Pontiac not a Bentley. LOL
I ran a Porsche store for a number of years and we had our share of strokes... we didn't get all high and mighty about test drives. In the long run this will hurt GM...many folks will be considering a Pontiac for the first time and will get turned off by the big attitude...A quality dealer can weed out the joy riders in a hurry and give legit customers a ride.

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