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Re: update Re: Dealers - help with 3-way deal? [exb0] by kdhspyder
Jan 21, 2006 (9:46 pm)

Replying to: exb0 (Jan 21, 2006 5:28 pm)

VA is one of the 'gouging' states. NC is not. In VA the price of the new vehicle is on which the taxes are based; e.g. $20000 sale price x 3% = $600 in taxes.
 
On your trade - the lease for example - you already paid the full tax on the original sales price back when you took the lease out; e.g. $25000 transaction price x 3% = $750 taxes paid . Thus when you 'trade' it in or if you were to buy it outright you dont owe any taxes.
 
Therefore if you have positive equity vis-a-vis the residual value it's just pure cash in your pocket or additional downpayment. No taxes due.
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Just to clarify on taxes by catam
Jan 21, 2006 (11:05 pm)
I am looking to trade my Accord on an Odyssey. I would expect that their will be about $10K difference between my trade value and the Ody price. I am planning on leasing the Ody. When calculating my lease payments I should expect to pay taxes only on the $10 K.
Is that correct??
Thanks for any info.
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Re: It's not worth the trouble.. [steine13] by isellhondas
Jan 22, 2006 (9:29 am)

Replying to: steine13 (Jan 21, 2006 3:16 pm)

I'm not in OR, I'm in WA.
 
All I'm saying is for a low/no profit deal it just isn't worth the trouble and risks.
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catam by stickguy
Jan 22, 2006 (9:33 am)
I think it depends on the state, I looked into this recently in NJ, and was told by the dealer that I would NOT received a tax credit for my trade in against a lease, only on a urchase. Really not sure of the nuances, but your best bet is to ask the finance manager at the Honda dealer, since they wil know the specific rules in your state.
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Re: update Re: Dealers - help with 3-way deal? [kdhspyder] by exb0
Jan 22, 2006 (10:17 am)

Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 21, 2006 9:46 pm)

kdhspyder, thank you for your reply.
 
Your answer makes a lot of sense, however, I am confused. The reason I am confused is because when I leased my wife’s Odyssey, the salesman told me that I have to pay full tax on the original sales price at the origination of the lease, and if I decide to purchase the van at the end of the lease, I will have to pay sales tax again on the residual value.
 
I guess the salesman who sold me the van was “confused”.
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Or just dumb! by isellhondas
Jan 22, 2006 (10:22 am)
With a lease, you pay tax as you go with every lease payment. If you choose to buy it at lease end, you pay tax on the residual.
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Re: Or just dumb! [isellhondas] by volvodan1
Jan 22, 2006 (11:11 am)

Replying to: isellhondas (Jan 22, 2006 10:22 am)

It depends on the state. I sell on the Iowa - Illinois border. In Iowa the consumer pays tax on the lease payments. In Illinois you pay tax on the purchase price of the vehicle. If you were to buy the vehicle at the end of the lease you pay tax again in IL.
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Re: Or just dumb! [volvodan1] by robr2
Jan 22, 2006 (11:35 am)

Replying to: volvodan1 (Jan 22, 2006 11:11 am)

Just like MA. You are paying the full sales tax incurred by the leasing company based on the purchase price. If you buy it at the end, you pay the sales tax you incur.
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Re: Or just dumb! [volvodan1] by bretfraz
Jan 22, 2006 (11:45 am)

Replying to: volvodan1 (Jan 22, 2006 11:11 am)

Volvodan is exactly right. In IL you pay sales tax on the purchase price of a leased car, eventhough you really are just renting the car for a specific amount of time.
 
And if you live in the City of Chicago, you get to pay both city and county taxes on a new car lease. I don't know what the rates are today but 10yrs ago that meant you paid 13% sales tax on a LEASED vehicle. Oh, and the city charged you a wheel tax of $90/yr (that one has prolly gone up too).
 
Welcome to Illinois!!!!
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Re: Or just dumb! [bretfraz] by jeffyscott
Jan 22, 2006 (12:54 pm)

Replying to: bretfraz (Jan 22, 2006 11:45 am)

The sales tax in Chicago is now 9%.
 
USA Today
 
So if you really pay double on the lease residual that is effectively 18%!

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