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Replying to: isellhondas (Nov 23, 2008 8:50 am) |
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Replying to: isellhondas (Nov 30, 2008 8:28 am) How many times have I had to defend volvos in your presence, Isell? I've lost count. Lemme ask ... you still have yet to own one, correct? They can be VERY troubleprone as they age. CAN be as they AGE? I'd love to know what car CAN'T be troubleprone as it ages. I'll put it simply ... it is just anecdotal, but at least I've been an owner of both ... I've had 3 volvos and 4 hondas in the family over the years. Volvo still ranks near the top of my shopping list at any given time. Honda is near the bottom. |
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Craig, not sure if sonsumers reports means anything to you (I'm sure you agree with the Honda rankings!), but over the last few years, many of th emondels (at least the ones that have been around) rate very well. the S60 and V70/XC70 have both been excellent (well above average, and easily up with Honda) back at least 5 years. Oh, and if you want more anecdotal, our odyssey has been well below average in the 4 years we have had it. The Nissan it replaced was bulletproof by comparison. |
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 30, 2008 6:18 pm) And, to answer your question, I have fond memories of a PV 544 that I had when I was in high school. Ever see one of those? And we have owned a couple of "bricks" too. These are the bulletproof 240 series that I remember fondly. I'm glad you like the newer offerings. Still nice cars but troublesome and quirky at least in my opinion. |
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Replying to: isellhondas (Dec 01, 2008 7:35 am)
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| Just wondering what a Blue Sensation (color) 2009 Honda Fit Sport with AT with 6000 miles has for a trade-in value. | |
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Replying to: joebloggs99 (Nov 30, 2008 1:34 pm) Are you buying or selling?
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Replying to: yatze (Dec 01, 2008 8:09 am) Personally, I like new cars. I think there is a world of difference between the old ones and the new ones. |
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Replying to: isellhondas (Dec 01, 2008 7:35 am) Anecdotal evidence is usually the worst kind. Don't know exactly how many used Volvo's you have sold, but we sell 20-25 used Volvo's a month. My evidence is that they are good cars. Volvo's do need more care than Honda's do. Their systems are more advanced, they have more sensors and microprocessors than your garden variety Honda. Not all Volvo owners maintain their cars properly. I'd bet that you took in some pretty marginal cars to begin with. Going from a Volvo to a Honda smacks of some kind of financial issues. Most of the time, if we do lose a customer it is to another luxury brand. People usually only go down the ladder if there are affordability issues.
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Replying to: isellhondas (Dec 01, 2008 7:35 am) Another thing, though, and this is just my uneducated theory here, I would venture a guess that you (ie, Honda dealer) see a higher rate of problematic cars (as trade-ins) from all manufacturers, not just Volvos. I say this because it seems the popular cry of anyone having a problem with another brand is, "I'll just buy a Honda next time!" Of course, because they are feeding on the popular opinion that Honda's are somehow indestructible or will put up with their negligence.
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