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He/she made patently false statements about an automobile and it's manufacturer. People shooting off at the mouth making false statements attacking the safety of a car without the facts should be challenged. If this is not appropriate, this should not be called a "forum", which is an exchange of ideas, in theory backed up by fact. Insinuating a car is somehow deficient in design or quality because it shares a platform with another marque or because it was discounted(Oh my!) at the end of it's production cyle shows a complete lack of current auto manufacturing worldwide. He further made a financial claim without knowing the numbers, also not very "helpful". As far as the thickness of my skin is concerned, unless you are sitting in Baghdad, Iraq right now as I am, you are in no position to question my resolve or motives. I obviously have no problem standing up for what is right and challenging falsehoods, as I volunteered to serve in my current capacity. If you are in Baghdad, I would be more than happy to by you a beer, (non-alcoholic of course, dry base), and discuss auto's of all makes, they all have their respective contributions to the worldwide auto industry.
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Replying to: smwls8 (Sep 22, 2008 4:59 am) You're quite right, of course. I just assumed that you were posting from somewhere in Florida, since you said in your 1st post that you were on the Gulf Coast, considering a drive north to get a better price for your car. It didn't occur to me that you might be referring to the Persian Gulf. My apologies for the misunderstanding & good luck to you. |
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Replying to: smwls8 (Sep 21, 2008 10:31 am) All I know is what I read. The X-type was pretty much panned by car reviewers as being a Mondeo under the skin, and not enough car for what Jaguar was charging. Here's a typical review from Edmunds: http://www.edmunds.com/jaguar/xtype/review.html. The crash ratings were not as good as other cars, including "marginal" side impact rating from the insurance institute (so before you knock Subaru, you should drive one and know that they've had five-star ratings across the board since the beginning). I'm not sure what relevance European crash standards have since you own a car sold in America and safety requirements are stricter here. Plus, near the end, dealers could hardly give the X-types away. People just didn't consider them real Jaguars. Some Ford products are fine. I had a 2003 Mazda Tribute and for a lot less money, I had exactly the same engine as you had in your Jaguar (and maybe a lot of the same AWD components as well). It was a vehicle that served me well until the transmission started to go at 60K. By the way, for further proof of the X-type's low value, I took a quick look at the Edmunds TMV trade-in for your 2003 X-type and it's $7,702. You know what the comparable value is for the Tribute, which probably cost at least $10,000 less than your Jag when both were new? $7,202, only a $500 difference. Obviously, you have a chip on your shoulder for New Yorkers. Whatever you think of us, we know what we're talking about. I was only pointing out that your car's not going to fetch that much and if you still like it and find it reliable, it may be worth keeping. If you still don't believe me, you'll surely find out when you try to sell it or when someone delivers the verdict on this forum. |
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Replying to: smwls8 (Sep 21, 2008 8:42 am) 4.4i's are bringing only a grand or 2 more. Your Jag is probably a $10,000 car. Maybe more if it's perfect. As the other poster noted, the X-Type never took off here and Jagaur discounted the car heavily.
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Replying to: breld (Sep 21, 2008 6:47 pm) 08 Factory cars are bringing almost $20k
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Replying to: akkey (Sep 21, 2008 6:55 pm) |
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I apologize for the confusion, i do live on the Gulf Coast, volunteered to move to New Orleans in the aftermath of Katrina. Had enough of the politics of DC, considered it a good trade-off. Thanks to you Volvomax for the evaluation, actually all I was looking for in this forum. As for you LongIslander, even you, I risk my life every day over here, just so you can say what only a New Yorker can, "we know what we're talking about". Need I say more? Sam White Camp Slayer Baghdad, Iraq
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Replying to: volvomax (Sep 22, 2008 9:03 am) |
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Replying to: volvomax (Sep 22, 2008 9:03 am) From on-line ads here in Denver, there are a few 07 LS's with low miles (12k or so) with asking prices right at $14k. Given that they're getting $13k at auction, are these likely "too good to be true?" And with 2008 program cars getting $20k, there's a local Mitsi dealer here who has 7-8 '08 LS's, all with roughly 12k miles - they're asking $17.9k. So, same question - since these seem like good deals compared to auction prices, what do I need to look out for? Are previous rentals that bad (most of these with carfaxes seem to be rentals from AZ or CA (I checked and they are indeed AWD)). So, what would you offer? I always figure there's quite a bit of room in dealers' asking prices, but sounds like maybe these have a lot of the profit trimmed out already? Thanks again!
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Replying to: smwls8 (Sep 22, 2008 9:28 am) |
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