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Re: Saab 9-5 [fordloser] by woodyww
Dec 31, 2007 (3:20 pm)
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Replying to: fordloser (Dec 31, 2007 8:57 am)

Is a Saab dealer more likely to give me a higher trade in figure than the Honda dealer which gave me the $4,000 offer?
 
Maybe, but when you go to trade-in the new saab in a few years, you'll still be faced with the crummy resale value of saabs.
 
If there's one area where saabs are still slightly popular, it must be New England. If you have the patience, I'd try craigslist, the want ad, etc. (start at $5900? or $5700?) And yours has very low miles. But by trading it, you'd also get the 5% tax break; another $200 or so......
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Re: Saab 9-5 [woodyww] by colloquor
Jan 01, 2008 (3:19 am)
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Replying to: woodyww (Dec 31, 2007 3:20 pm)

As one who's driven both SAAB and Volvo since 1970, SAABs are notorious for poor resale value. And, what's strange, I've had far fewer problems with any SAAB I've owned compared to the Volvos. I know I'm in the minority there, but that's my experience. Resale value is based upon market and consumer perception. Sometimes perception is wrong. I currently have one SAAB with over 300K on the clock, and nothing internal to the engine - including the timing chain - has required replacement. Frankly, it's been the most reliable car in our household, including our son's Honda.
 
Good luck with your 9-5.
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Re: Saab 9-5 [colloquor] by cccompson
Jan 01, 2008 (5:19 am)
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Replying to: colloquor (Jan 01, 2008 3:19 am)

Had a 1984 Saab 900S and a 1986 Volvo 760 Turbo wagon in the '90s. They were both very good cars.
 
Test drove a '99 9-3 when they were running a super lease special then and it just seemed cheap.
 
It seems as though now they have to discount both brands tremendously when new just to move them, never a good sign. The only thing I've been able to figure is that American ownership has wrecked both companies.
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Re: Saab 9-5 [cccompson] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 01, 2008 (8:42 am)
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Replying to: cccompson (Jan 01, 2008 5:19 am)

Make no mistake. Once an automaker loses its reputation in America, it's hell to get it back. For whatever reason (poor service? lack of parts? bad design?) Saab cars performed very badly overall in America compared to their competition, some years back. American buyers are still shy of them, especially when used and going out of warranty. I wouldn't blame American ownership for this.
 
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Re: Saab 9-5 [Mr_Shiftright] by cccompson
Jan 01, 2008 (9:07 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 01, 2008 8:42 am)

Well, IIRC, 15 to 20 years ago, Saabs had a good reputation and resale here. Don't know exactly when GM took control but things seemed to take a turn for the worse after the 900 was re-bodied in '94 or so.
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Re: Subaru Forester [akangl] by ateixeira
Jan 01, 2008 (9:15 am)
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Replying to: akangl (Dec 31, 2007 11:20 am)

Being in Alaska increases the value, but the high miles really hurt.
 
In my area you can buy a new Forester X for $19k, and that's even with an automatic transmission.
 
Any more than they offered is just too close to a new Forester price.
 
One big reason is the 2009 model is about to show up, it's already out in Japan and will make its US debut at NAIAS, and hit dealers around March.
 
Tell your friend the trade is not only fair, but also the value may go down once the 2009 models show up in dealers. They'll also be clearing out the 2008s, further eroding his trade in value.
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Re: Saab 9-5 [cccompson] by colloquor
Jan 01, 2008 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: cccompson (Jan 01, 2008 5:19 am)

IMO, SAAB's basic strengths evaporated with the GM influence and ownership, especially the interior and engine technology. As Shifty points out regarding parts, some may have had parts acquisition problems, but I never experienced it. Our former local dealership was located in a small town (600 population!) in western Indiana. They stocked practically all parts from the 9-5 back to the 2-stroke 93. But, they had been a SAAB-only dealership since 1956. If they didn't have a part, it was there in one day. There are a number of online sources for SAAB parts, and I can have any OEM part to my door in no more than two days.
 
Actually, I've found - at least for my Classic 900 - parts availability and prices are equal to or less than any domestic vehicle I've ever owned. For example, direct fit drop-in catalytic converters for $75 for the 900 - not too many cars, including domestics, offer one at that price. The Power Steering pump is a GM-Saginaw unit available anywhere for practically nothing, as is the steering rack. Maintenance cost is not an issue for me, as I perform all of the maintenance on the car.
 
If anything is the culprit with SAAB, it's SAAB corporate's blunders and GM's inability to understand the true SAAB buyer. It takes more to make, and/or to sell, a SAAB than having the ignition switch on the floor.
 
As far as I'm concerned, the real SAAB died when GM bought 51% of the company in 1990, and the remainder a decade later.
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Re: Saab 9-5 [woodyww] by kyfdx HOST
Jan 01, 2008 (9:50 am)
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Replying to: woodyww (Dec 31, 2007 3:20 pm)

I think that Saab would be a great buy for someone in the neighborhood of $5K-$6K.. Where can you find a 7 yr old luxury sedan with only 58K miles, and with a stick, for anywhere near that price?
 
As risk-averse as I am towards Saabs, if it were time to find a car in that price range, I'd jump on it. Seriously, what else would you buy for $5500?
 
I'm not saying a dealer should pay more for it... just that it's a screaming buy for someone that knows a mechanic named Sven..
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Re: Saab 9-5 [kyfdx] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 01, 2008 (10:21 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jan 01, 2008 9:50 am)

I think every car with a bad reputation deserves it. American buyers aren't stupid, they know, sooner or later. I'd take a chance on a *very* cheap, *very* clean, *very* low mileage Saab, but nothing over 80K or with any questionable issues whatsoever. I loved my Saabs, and they were all (3 of them) pretty troublesome cars. Luckily, I bought 'em cheap and bailed out in time. I still miss the turbo convertible though.
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Re: Saab 9-5 [kyfdx] by woodyww
Jan 01, 2008 (11:10 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jan 01, 2008 9:50 am)

I think that Saab would be a great buy for someone in the neighborhood of $5K-$6K
 
Probably. Even tho I agree that Saabs "aren't real Saabs anymore", & don't have the character of the 900 & 9000. And the 9-5 has fairly awful repair ratings in CR.
 
Still, no worse than VW's say. (OK, that's not saying much).
 
My 9000 turbo also had lousy repair ratings in CR. But mine also had very low miles, like the OP's, & didn't cost me an insane amount for repairs, mainly replacement items, over 10 years. When I went to sell it, one Acura dlr. offered me "NOTHING". Zero. On trade. A Lexus dlr. offered me $4200 on trade.
 
I put an ad in the Boston Globe & sold it in 2 weeks for $6200, cash green US $$.....

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