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#674 of 3276 junior9 by driver55 Mar 01, 2001 (2:01 pm)
In San Diego, Bob Baker VW was a class act when I spoke with them. However, they did not seem to be as competitive pricewise. I guess "class" comes with a premium in the car market. That said, "class" is a one-time experience, but my payments last for 60 months, so my bottom line is the price.   I have a friend who just bought her Passat from City Chevy/VW, off of I-5. Wasn't the smoothest transaction ever accomplished, but the final price was worth the effort.   You just have to not be afraid to walk away. Give your offer that you think is good for you but still do-able and if they don't accept, then give them your number and tell them to call if they change their mind. If they are able to make a little bit of $ from it, and you have made it clear that you are ready to buy, you will probably get a call. If not, well, you know approximately what their limit is.   good luck.
#675 of 3276 Could't have said it better by mney6 Mar 01, 2001 (2:14 pm)
Thanks Jell.You have hit the nail on the head
#676 of 3276 Junior by its_kristy Mar 01, 2001 (2:22 pm)
I would suggest you comb through all of these posts because many people have posted what they paid. The closest thing I have seen to what you are describing is a page here on edmonds that has a national sampling of what people have paid for their cars. However, it isn't very complete. If nothing else, I would just ask on this site. Also try VWVortex and B5.
#677 of 3276 Invoice pricing on the 2001.5 by cte1866 Mar 01, 2001 (2:24 pm)
Where can I find invoice pricing on the 2001.5? Every site right now still has 2001. I assume there is a bit of a price difference and I want to be sure when I buy at the end of this month the dealer doesn't stick it to me.   Thanks all!
#678 of 3276 2001.5 pricing by its_kristy Mar 01, 2001 (3:02 pm)
Kelly Blue book has it and Scott VW has it.
#679 of 3276 Leave it to you, jelliot2 and mney6... by snurple Mar 01, 2001 (3:36 pm)
to underestimate your audience.   My comments on yours and mney6's "explanation" of a lowball quote are twofold:   1) Low ball quotes may exist--fine--but how can we as consumers combat them? My suggestion was to be *very careful* to specify exactly what you are looking for, preferably in writing--this will make it less likely that a dealer will try to lowball you, and much easier to walk away if some scumbag dealer pulls a "lowball" on you. 2) In an ironic twist, people may find themselves in a situation where one dealer may characterize the quote of another--a quote that they do not want to match or beat--as a "lowball quote." In this case, the lowball offer would, in fact be a legitimate one, and the dealer who is questioning the great quote would in fact be the scumbag dealer. My suggestion was to take a *dealer's assessment* of your "lowest quote" with a grain of salt.   I trust that every consumer who reads any post from any dealer at this site will bear in mind that maybe, just maybe the dealer will be giving their answer the slightest bit of spin.   I guess that is why I didn't read mney6's post on lowballing and just smile, nod, and say "thanks!"
#680 of 3276 Maybe Snurple is right by jelliot2 Mar 01, 2001 (3:54 pm)
on his point #2. If, however, they tell you to go right back there and get that deal, it's probably either a truly excellent deal, a lowball, or a loose cannon saleperson telling you that.   Point #1 part 1 about detailed specifications is irrelevant, the salesman will still claim stupidity in this situation, leaving you with the choice of either surrender (which does happen) or point #1 part 2, walk away, which in my opinion is equally easy no matter what the situation.
#681 of 3276 PS by jelliot2 Mar 01, 2001 (3:58 pm)
There's a saying I've been taught. "The be-back bus doesn't run by here". In other words, to get paid you really have to sell to the people that are in front of you.
#682 of 3276 Ah Yes the Great Snurple has spoken by mney6 Mar 01, 2001 (4:02 pm)
To those consumers that come to this forum , it is true that everything said in here by dealers and consumers should be taken with a grain of salt. I've have seen every low-ball trick used over 12 years,70 hours per week so I would suggest to the consumer I probably have a better knowledge of it.As far as having it in writing as Mr. Snurple has suggested,unles it is on a purchase agreement and signed by management ,all you have is a piece of paper.There are alot of dirty dealers out there and it is very difficult for people like Mr Snurple to understand that not everyone is that way.You do have to protect yourself and have as much knowledge as you can,just like I do when I buy Electronics,Furniture,Jewelry,and other general goods.
#683 of 3276 mney6, you're in a difficult position... by snurple Mar 01, 2001 (4:19 pm)
You seem intent on convincing people that the cheap tactic of lowballing is so prevalant that consumers will find it very difficult to avoid. I suspect that your primary interest in even raising the "evil dangers of the lowball" is to *discourage people from shopping around.* Shopping around can be tiring and tiresome--and the ONLY REASON TO DO IT is if you think it will pay off. But, many dealers who post here would claim that anything more than a quick shopping expedition will be insanely frustrating and yield a savings of a mere $1.93.   Now mney6, as to your difficult position. You are arguing that, "there are alot of dirty dealers out there and it is very difficult for people like Mr Snurple to understand that not everyone is that way." My question is this: If there are a lot of dirty dealers out there, doesn't it follow that there are a lot of dirty dealers in here?   And, as a follow up: If a dealer has 12 years of experience 70 hours per week--or roughly 40,000 hours of experience with "lowball offers"--does that mean that he is an expert at practicing the lowball OR that he has never offered a lowball quote and has dedicated his life to wiping lowball offers off the face of the earth? Just wondering...

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