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#249 of 3318 Passat CD offering by vwguild Nov 30, 2000 (4:21 am)
AK, VW offers it's customers a choice... single disc in-dash or Six Disc changer...both are Dealer installed options. In Europe, and on the Autobahn speed rules...no time or place to messing with CDs and the European mentality rules at VW. You may have noticed a small grid opening by the map lights...that is for a *mic* for a cell phone; in Europe it is against the law to drive with a cell phone stuck to the side of your head. It is also against the law to drink in your car, which is why ALL of the European cars do not boast 14 cupholders. As a retired Calif. Paramedic I can tell you that the first thing a medic checks at the scene of an MVA is the airway...coffee stirrers, big hunks of a BIG Mac, you name it they are there, and that is at 65/75...Imagine changing a single CD at 120 MPH...I wouldn't...
#250 of 3318 Snurple's word limit... by ffxvw Nov 30, 2000 (10:17 pm)
Snurple, 50 words or less? Whoohoo!!! Kidding...{ducks the slings and arrows} Brentwoodvolvo, Thanks for the more specific cautions about online buying services. I haven't been doing this very long, so I only have a few examples, mostly secondhand, of this kind of problem. Doesn't it seem like there's an awful lot of agression in the car-buying process? Strange, when dealers and consumers have basically the same goals! It makes me wonder if the majority of the negotiating process is more ego-related than financial. Any thoughts? Jason
#251 of 3318 I know that given my immense wealth... by snurple Nov 30, 2000 (10:46 pm)
it IS all about my ego. Umm..not really. Re: online buying/brentwoodvolvo's post: *CarOrder.com went out of business--perhaps because they weren't very good at it. Other online folks are still in business, perhaps because they are good at it. *Anyone who agrees to pay $8K over MSRP and order their Lexus LS430 in purple, w/two sunroofs--"like in the Outback": 1)has too much money 2)hasn't done any research on the car they are buying. On the other hand, smart people have bought online and saved money.
#252 of 3318 Sorry about... by snurple Nov 30, 2000 (10:46 pm)
the long (50+ word) post. I hope that this short post evens out the tally
#253 of 3318 wipers by ralcrs Dec 01, 2000 (2:16 pm)
I don't know if this is the appropriate place or not. Anyway my wipers are very streaky(6000 mi.)any help? Thanks.
#254 of 3318 Ego thing... by ffxvw Dec 01, 2000 (3:52 pm)
Not having deep financial resources myself, I understand the desire to save money. However, if this was all financial, this would be a Daewoo discussion group! I understand the desire to not pay more than you have to, I share it. When I buy my next new car, I fully plan to squeeze as much as feasible out of the price. But if I'm looking at a $25,000 car, I am definitely not going to beat people up over a couple of hundred dollars. Every sales manager I've ever talked to has said that you can't just give a customer a good deal. You have to make them FEEL that its a good deal. When I started this job, I just used to quote my best price right away. How many people bought? 0%! They just didn't believe me, or used my price at another dealer. What's the solution? I actually have to play the same stupid game as every other salesperson, and be vague. Its pretty frustrating... Jason
#255 of 3318 ffxvw by jelliot Dec 01, 2000 (4:17 pm)
Good point. When I was selling, I had a full time job that supported my family and was able to experiment with different methods to see what worked and gave me the happiest customers. The main thing I learned? In the car business, reformers starve. Those who practice the tried and true methods get paid.
#256 of 3318 ralcrs by vwguild Dec 01, 2000 (4:23 pm)
You should contact your VW Service advisor...he will make sure that they are clean...positioned correctly, or replaced because they are defective.
#257 of 3318 ffxvw, did you really think... by snurple Dec 01, 2000 (5:16 pm)
that people would believe you when you told them "that's my best price"?! As you must know, this is phrase #15 in the "Car Saleman's Handbook," and every customer has heard it a gazillion times. You said: "Every sales manager I've ever talked to has said that you can't just give a customer a good deal. You have to make them FEEL that it's a good deal." Are you sure he didn't say: "You can't give a customer a good deal but you have to make them FEEL that it's a good deal" ??? Per post #262: Is it really true that a dealer's goal is to sell a car at the lowest price possible? --That's great! Because, aside from wanting a pleasent buying experience, most customers do want a low price (yet one that gives dealers a fair profit margin). While Dealers and customers do share common goals (one of which is "world peace"), I think that your comments sound a little like: "Can't we all just get along?" You know that it is a little more complicated than that.
#258 of 3318 Guilty... by ffxvw Dec 01, 2000 (7:14 pm)
Alright, you got me. I do wish this process wasn't filled with antagonism. I long for the day when car prices are published and adhered to, removing the need to work at anything besides options and colors. Maybe its just here, but I think almost everyone here feels the same way about it. Maybe I was a little naive for thinking people would believe me. I guess it was inexperience talking (been here since March). The basic goal that consumers and dealers share is customers leaving the dealership in a new car. It is a much healthier outlook for me to NOT think of myself as a salesperson. I think of myself more as a broker, between the dealership and the customer. About the "make them FEEL that it's a good deal" quote, I said it right the first time. Jason

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